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I have posted on here over the years but I wouldn't have requested information on the Bugbee family as there is no direct link. It is the sort of name you'd remember thaough isn't it? :-)

Thank you all for your help. Much appreciated.

"Will I be able to get a copy of a marriage certificate from 1838?"

Yes...Civil registration began 1 July 1837

The reference for the Johnson/Bailey marriage..
1838 Dec Romford 12 396

Order online from
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/default.asp

Chris

well if there was one it ain't around any more!!!!

Its just anything Romford sticks in my mind too Ann as we dont see that many......could be wrong of course

jax

Elizabeth Johnson
England and Wales Census, 1861

birth 1846 —Romford, Essex
residence 1861 —Romford, Essex, England
census 1861 —Romford, Essex, England

record title: England and Wales Census, 1861
name: Elizabeth Johnson
event: Census
event date: 1861
gender: Female
age: 15
relationship to head of household: Daughter
birthplace: Romford, Essex
record type: Household
registration district: Romford
sub-district: 1 Romford
civil parish: Romford
county: Essex

Emma Johnson
England and Wales Census, 1841

birth 1839 —Essex
residence 1841 —Romford, Essex, England
census 1841 —Romford, Essex, England

record title: England and Wales Census, 1841
name: Emma Johnson
event: Census
event date: 1841
gender: Female
age: 2
birthplace: Essex
record type: Household
registration district: Romford
sub-district: Romford
civil parish: Romford
county: Essex

Edmund Johnson
England and Wales Census, 1901

birth 1840 —Romford, Essex
residence 31 Mar 1901 —Walthamstow, Essex, England
census 31 Mar 1901 —Walthamstow, Essex, England

record title: England and Wales Census, 1901
name: Edmund Johnson
event: Census
event date: 31 Mar 1901
gender: Male
age: 61
relationship to head of household: Head
birthplace: Romford, Essex
record type: Household
registration district: West Ham
sub-district: Walthamstow
ecclesiastical parish: St Stephens
civil parish: Walthamstow
county: West Ham, Walthamstow, Walthamstow, Essex

Edmund Johnson
England and Wales Census, 1891

birth Romford, Essex
residence 1891 —England
census 1891 —England

record title: England and Wales Census, 1891
name: Edmund Johnson
event: Census
event date: 1891
gender: Male
age: 48
relationship to head of household: Head
birthplace: Romford, Essex
record type: Household
registration district: West Ham
sub-district: Walthamstow
ecclesiastical parish: St Stephens
civil parish: Walthamstow
county: Essex

I thought that too Jax

Did you have a thread about this family before Bugbee sounds familar ?

jax

Ann. That is the record I saw and I think there must be another Henry Johnson born around the same time. My Henry had children named Emma, Henry,Edmund and Elizabeth (all with Eliza Bailey). Its just such a common name - why couldn't he be called Job or something less common?? :S

Sophia Bugbee Pedigree
Female
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Event(s):
Birth: 1854 Romford, Essex, England
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Parents:
Father: Thomas Bugbee Family
Mother: Sophia Tadlow
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Messages:
Record submitted after 1991 by a member of the LDS Church. No additional information is available. Ancestral File may list the same family and the submitter.

Ann of Green Gables. I've traced Eliza Bailey back and her parents are John and Elizabeth. Eliza was born c 1821 and died between 1845 and 1851 but i've not yet found her death record. :-)

Husband's Name
James JOHNSON (AFN:4VBX-WG) Pedigree

Born: Abt. 1793 Place:

Father:
Mother:

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Wife's Name
Sarah JOHNSON (AFN:CVG6-X8) Pedigree

Born: Abt. 1797 Place:

Father:
Mother:

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Children

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1. Sex Name
M Henry James JOHNSON (AFN:1SVX-X2) Pedigree

Born: 25 Dec 1819 Place: Romford, Essex, England
Christened: Place: Holms Church, Essex, England
Died: 10 Mar 1903 Place: Forest Gate, Essex, England
Buried: Place: Cardston, Alberta, Canada

???

Husband's Name
Henry James JOHNSON (AFN:1SVX-X2) Pedigree

Born: 25 Dec 1819 Place: Romford, Essex, England
Christened: Place: Holms Church, Essex, England
Died: 10 Mar 1903 Place: Forest Gate, Essex, England
Buried: Place: Cardston, Alberta, Canada
Married: 23 Mar 1862 Place: St. John Nottinghill, Mddlsx, England

Father: James JOHNSON (AFN:4VBX-WG) Family
Mother: Sarah JOHNSON (AFN:CVG6-X8)

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Wife's Name
Sarah MEEKINGS (AFN:1MTH-9J) Pedigree

Born: 10 Apr 1840 Place: Stowmarket, Sfflk, England
Died: 13 May 1925 Place: Pocatello, Bnnck, Id
Buried: 16 May 1925 Place: Mountain View Cemetery, Pocatello, Id
Married: 23 Mar 1862 Place: St. John Nottinghill, Mddlsx, England

Father: John MEEKINGS (AFN:1MTH-15) Family
Mother: Susan FROST (AFN:1MTH-2B)

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Children

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1. Sex Name
F Sarah Ann JOHNSON (AFN:1MTG-LX) Pedigree

Born: 19 Jan 1867 Place: Stepney Parish, London, Middlesex, England
Died: 15 May 1946 Place: Nampa, Canyon, Id
Buried: 18 May 1946 Place: Pocatello, Bannock, Id

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2. Sex Name
F Amy Susan JOHNSON (AFN:1MTG-VB) Pedigree

Born: 28 Jul 1869 Place: Stepney Parish Mile End Old Town, Middlesex, Engl.
Died: 27 Jul 1963 Place: Cardston, Alberta
Buried: 30 Jul 1963 Place:

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3. Sex Name
M Frederick William JOHNSON (AFN:1SVZ-7K) Pedigree

Born: 11 Sep 1864 Place: Mile End Old Town, Mddlsx, Eng
Died: 11 Sep 1923 Place:

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4. Sex Name
F Ada Elizabeth JOHNSON (AFN:1MTG-WH) Pedigree

Born: 6 Nov 1871 Place: Stepney Parish Mile End Old Town, Middlesex, Engl.
Died: 20 Mar 1921 Place: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
Buried: 1 Apr 1921 Place:

Will I be able to get a copy of a marriage certificate from 1838? If so I think this may be the only way of knowing who his father is. The birth information looks good but on the IGI there is the same information with different spouses shown so I'm very uncertain.

Eliza Bailey
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

residence Essex, England
parents: William Bailey, Mary

record title: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
name: Eliza Bailey
gender: Female
baptism/christening date: 07 Jun 1829
baptism/christening place: Birch, Essex, England
father's name: William Bailey
mother's name: Mary
indexing project (batch) number: I03375-6
system origin: England-ODM
source film number:

Eliza Bailey
England and Wales Census, 1841

birth 1840 —Essex
residence 1841 —Romford, Essex, England
census 1841 —Romford, Essex, England

record title: England and Wales Census, 1841
name: Eliza Bailey
event: Census
event date: 1841
gender: Female
age: 1
birthplace: Essex
record type: Household
registration district: Romford
sub-district: Romford
civil parish: Romford
county: Essex

Sophia Bugbee
England and Wales Census, 1861

birth 1855 —Romford, Essex
residence 1861 —Romford, Essex, England
census 1861 —Romford, Essex, England

record title: England and Wales Census, 1861
name: Sophia Bugbee
event: Census
event date: 1861
gender: Female
age: 6
relationship to head of household: Daughter
birthplace: Romford, Essex
record type: Household
registration district: Romford
sub-district: 1 Romford
civil parish: Romford
county: Essex