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Hi all,

Can someone please check the 1841-1861 Census, for William and Amelia Staines, possibility with sons William c1830, George c1831 and Alfred c1842 in the area of Essex.

They immigrated to Australia, sometime between 1851 and 1862,

Thanks, Joy

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1841 England Census
about George Haines
Name: George Haines
[George Staines]
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1830
Gender: Male
Where born: Essex, England

Civil parish: Romford
Hundred: Havering atte Bower Liberty
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

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Registration district: Romford
Sub-registration district: Romford
Household Members:
Name Age
William Haines 35 (Blacksmith)
Miria Haines 25
George Haines 11
William Haines 10
Cathrine Haines 9
Ann Haines 8
Ellen Haines 4
Thomas Haines 3

Probably not this one!

Flick,

I don't know where the parents were born, but the sons birthplace on their death records stated Essex, I put approx birth years in my 1st thread

You haven't put birth years for William and Amelia.
Jan

What was Williams occupation?

Jan,

I don't know the birth years of William or Amelia,

PricklyHolly, or occupation of William

It just on their death records, parents names William & Amelia Hewitson

I asked for the birth years for the parents.............

The wife on the 1841 posted above appears on later censuses.....name Maria

Did all of the family move to Australia?

Could they already have left before the 1851 census?

There is this one ,she is with a Willian Stains aged 40 a Greengrocer on the original image
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It states they were not of this area

1841 England Census
about Amelia Stains
Name: Amelia Stains
Age: 25
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1816
Gender: Female

Civil parish: St Clement Danes
Hundred: Westminster
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Strand
Sub-registration district: St Clement Danes
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 731
Book: 5
Folio: 5
Page Number: 2
Household Members: Name Age
Amelia Stains 25

Flick,

Sorry, misunderstood. I have been only able to find the deaths of the 3 sons. Have only found the arrival of William 1852 & George in 1853, Alfred Ward died in 1862 aged 19 years.

OK.........and at least you have now given fuller details.

mother's name not Amelia, but some of the other info fits

1851 census
Address: Jordans Farm, Mountnessing, Mountnessing

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Disability Where Born

STAINES, William Head Married M 59 1792 Farmer 114 Employing 5 Labourers London Middlesex
STAINES, Sarah Ann Wife Married F 54 1797 Farmers Wife Mountnessg Essex
STAINES, George Son Unmarried M 20 1831 Farmers Son Mountnessg Essex
STAINES, John Son Unmarried M 16 1835 Farmers Son Mountnessg Essex
STAINES, Henry John Son M 11 1840 School At Home Mountnessg Essex
STAINES, Alfred Will Son M 9 1842 School At Home Mountnessg Essex
STAINES, Eliza Brignall Servant F 15 1836 General Servant Stock Essex

Thanks everyone, I can check details of other children.

I think Tempest must have the right family. Here is Alfred's birth reg, and Mountnessing is under Billericay registration district


Births Dec 1841 (>99%)
Staines Alfred Ward Billericay 12 7

possibly the family on 1841 census

Address: Clap Gate Conners, Mountnessing

Name Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Where Born

STAINES, William M 45 1796 Essex (occupation Farmer)
STAINES, Sarah F 40 1801 Essex
STAINES, Thomas M 20 1821 Essex
STAINES, Sarah F 15 1826 Essex
STAINES, Anne F 15 1826 Essex
STAINES, William M 12 1829 Essex
STAINES, George M 10 1831 Essex
STAINES, Eleanor F 8 1833 Essex
STAINES, John M 6 1835 Essex
STAINES, Sophia F 4 1837 Essex
STAINES, Henry M 2 1839 Essex

Thanks again for your help

I might consider getting the birth cert for Alfred, as then you can hopefully confirm his mother's name.
Jan

Jan,

I have the death certificate of Alfred Ward, just checked it says Amelia Sarah, maybe she was known as Amelia, it was filled out by his brother William.

Just a query, were the family still in the same place on the 1861 Census?

here they are on 1861 at the same address as 1851

it took a bit to find them as the surname has been bodged by fmp, it says Staines on the original, Sarah is calling herself Amelia now, oh and places/ birth years have been altered since 1851.

1861 census
Address: Jordans Farm House, Padhams Green, Mountnessing

Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation Disability Where Born

HAINES, William Head Married M 69 1792 Farming 104 Acres 6 Men Mountnessing Essex
HAINES, Amelia Wife Married F 61 1800 London
HAINES, Henry Son Unmarried M 21 1840 Farmers Son Mountnessing Essex
HOWARD, Ellen Servant Unmarried F 17 1844 House Servant Stock Essex