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Hiya, can anyone help me trace my partner's family?

His dad Skeates (Brown) (1931 - 2012) had a brother John Skeates (1943 to 2007). John had moved to Isle of Wite. There is also another brother but we don't know the name.

Their mother was called Catherine Brown (Katheryn?) and she had a brother called George Brown.
Edit - her partner was Sidney Skeates, and they did not marry.

Her brother George Brown was something in the secret service but we don't know what exactly.

Have you tried a search on this site to see if anyone else is looking for the family or the Electoral Rolls,
Good luck,
Liz

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Births Mar 1935 (98%)
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Skeates Anthony F Brown Islington 1b 353

Anthony! Yes thats the brother.

This could be Ronald Douglas. Possibly born before Catherine got together with Mr. Skeates. It looks at the minute as though they didn't marry.

Ronald D Brown
Mother's Maiden Surname: Brown
Date of Registration: Jan Feb Mar 1931
Registration district: Pancras
Registration county: Greater London
Volume Number: 1b
Page Number: 31

thats interesting, he married as skeates, and my partner his son is also skeates

If she 'married' quite soon after he was born then he would possibly have been raised in her partners name. It's not uncommon for that to happen.
Who did he marry?

Thought that may be the one. They married quite late. Her surname is interesting had she been married before or is it just coincidence?

she changed her name by deed poll. My partner found out as a teenager that they weren't married. They officially married a bit later after that.

That's lovely.
If you need anything else...just shout. There's always someone around willing to help.

I think finding the mother's details is going to be impossible as Brown is such a common name and it looks like she didn't marry the father although it must be the same father as all the sons look the same apart from being different ages.
Also their sons (1 being my partner) also look alike!

If you don't already have them it may help to get one of the birth certificates. It would give you the father's name if you don't already know it and also would say if Catherine had been married before

I now know the fathers name was Sidney Skeates, and his wfe Catherine usually went by the name Kate

This is the only marriage for a Sidney Skeates I can find and he married Ada Wright but it puts him in the right place at the right time.

Marriages Jun 1925 (>99%)
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Skeates Sidney Wright Pancras 1b 148


Three births for a Sidney Skeates from 1900 to 1908.

Births Mar 1901 (>99%)
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Skeates Sidney Sherborne 5a 313

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Births Sep 1903 (>99%)
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Skeates Sidney Wandsworth 1d 581

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Births Sep 1906 (>99%)
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Skeates Sidney Tom Wallingford 2c 307
This one died shortly after birth.

1911 is down for maintenance so I can't look at them at the moment.

thanks for that.
I don't think I'm going to get very far with Catherine's family as they were gypsies and didn't register half if any of their childrens births.

However I now have family photos which say child with Aunty Sissy and child with Aunt Clary which are Sidney's sisters.
Does this help find the right Sidney.

As an update, after finding a document I now know that Catherine Brown did not marry Sidney. Their son Ronald was given to Sidney's sister Cissie to look after by the local authority and were given instructions that neither Sidney or Catherine were allowed to have any say in Ronald's upbringing. The document does not mention the other two siblings at all. There is also mention of a short stay in a childrens home in London but doesn't say where.

This family is very interesting to me but a right puzzle and a half!

If the birth of Anthony is correct, perhaps the siblings hadn't yet been born when the children's home event happened.
Maybe the address on Anthony's birth certificate would be an area to consider?

Gwyn

Thanks Gwyn, sorry its taken me so long to reply!

I have found out that the Skeates were romany gypsies as well so this may be why I can't find out much about the Skeates family.
Looking at the children's birth certificates gives very little info, just names and no address or occupation.

I am trying to find any records with Sidney and his sisters Sissie and Clary but as I don't know the actual names then this might make it a bit tricky.
This is my biggest brick wall yet and its a bit of a sod!

I've come back to my brick wall and hoping for some help. Sidneys sister Clarissa was born about 1907 from details from a photo.

As all mentioned people are no longer living I hoped to be able to get help as was aware of living people gettting mentioned of which I had previosly deleted those posts.

Can anyone help me find Sidney and his sister Clarissa (Clary() and Cissy on a cencus please?

Could this be Cissie ?

Births Dec 1907

SKEATES Cecilia Mary .. Brentford 3a 84