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Thanks Astra by the way.
I do appreciate help I get even if it is just a wild guess.
If wrong well at least its one more to cross off!

I wonder if Clarie is Nellie and not Clarissa and Sissy Louie?
I know I'm clutching at straws but it is a possibility.

All I know is that Ron called his aunts Aunt Clari and Aunt Sissie
but bear in mind he hadn't seen them after the age of about 14 I guess so he might remeber their names wrong. Unfortunately Ron died recently and this was all he could ever tell me anyway.

They were definately from London Battersea area as Ron and in turn his son (my partner) were born in the same area then in Hammersmith.

Hi again Ruth.

this Sidney is from Battersea

SKEATES, Frank Father Married M 44 1867 Coal Porter Warwell Hants VIEW
SKEATES, Mercey Ann Mother Married F 44 1867 Nill Weyhill VIEW
SKEATES, William F Son Married M 25 1886 Carman Ampent Hants VIEW
SKEATES JUNN, Frank Son Single M 23 1888 Carman Weyhill Hants VIEW
SKEATES, Ben Son Single M 19 1892 Vanguard Battersea VIEW
SKEATES, Edward Son M 13 1898 Nill School Battersea VIEW
SKEATES, Nellie Daughter F 11 1900 Nill School Battersea VIEW
SKEATES, Sidney Son M 7 1904 Nill School Battersea VIEW
SKEATES, Louie Daughter F 3 1908 Nil Wandsworth VIEW
SKEATES, Daisy Daughter Married
3 years F 24 1887 Nill Ox VIEW
SKEATES, Daisy Daughter F 2 1909 Nill School Ox VIEW
SKEATES, Willie Son M 1 1910 Nill Ox VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
2381 Reference:
RG14PN2381 RG78PN79 RD26 SD6 ED12 SN22

Registration District:
Wandsworth Sub District:
Springfield Enumeration District:
12 Parish:
Wandsworth

Address:
31 Littleton St Wandsworth County:
London


Frank Married Mercy Ann Lewis

Marriages Dec 1885 (>99%)
LEWIS Mercy Ann Andover 2c 461
Skeates Frank Andover 2c 461


Unfortunately there are no daughters with the names you mention so i doubt it is this one

When I spoke to Ron before he died he said his dad Sidney only had two sisters and that he didn't know of any other others.

Has anyone got any suggestions as to how I can find anythng as Ron's birth certificate does say Sidney Skeates but that is all we have to go on.

Ron was born on 3rd Jan 1931 as Rnald Douglas Brown, father Sidney Skeates and I can't find anything at all.
Both were from London and Sidney was from Battersea area.
I think he was born about 1904

Maybe not


SKEATES, Frank Head Married M 39 1872 Chemist And Druggist Manager Somerset Bath VIEW
SKEATES, Hannah Long Wife Married
14 years F 35 1876 Wiltshire South Wraxall VIEW
SKEATES, Doris Lacey Daughter F 13 1898 School Essex Upton Park VIEW
SKEATES, Francis George Son M 4 1907 Surrey Clapham Inn VIEW
SKEATES, Cecelia Mary Daughter F 3 1908 Middlesex Hounslow VIEW


Registration District:
Brentford

Address:
158 High Street Hounslow

Could this be Cissie ?

Births Dec 1907

SKEATES Cecilia Mary .. Brentford 3a 84

I've come back to my brick wall and hoping for some help. Sidneys sister Clarissa was born about 1907 from details from a photo.

As all mentioned people are no longer living I hoped to be able to get help as was aware of living people gettting mentioned of which I had previosly deleted those posts.

Can anyone help me find Sidney and his sister Clarissa (Clary() and Cissy on a cencus please?

Thanks Gwyn, sorry its taken me so long to reply!

I have found out that the Skeates were romany gypsies as well so this may be why I can't find out much about the Skeates family.
Looking at the children's birth certificates gives very little info, just names and no address or occupation.

I am trying to find any records with Sidney and his sisters Sissie and Clary but as I don't know the actual names then this might make it a bit tricky.
This is my biggest brick wall yet and its a bit of a sod!

If the birth of Anthony is correct, perhaps the siblings hadn't yet been born when the children's home event happened.
Maybe the address on Anthony's birth certificate would be an area to consider?

Gwyn

As an update, after finding a document I now know that Catherine Brown did not marry Sidney. Their son Ronald was given to Sidney's sister Cissie to look after by the local authority and were given instructions that neither Sidney or Catherine were allowed to have any say in Ronald's upbringing. The document does not mention the other two siblings at all. There is also mention of a short stay in a childrens home in London but doesn't say where.

This family is very interesting to me but a right puzzle and a half!

thanks for that.
I don't think I'm going to get very far with Catherine's family as they were gypsies and didn't register half if any of their childrens births.

However I now have family photos which say child with Aunty Sissy and child with Aunt Clary which are Sidney's sisters.
Does this help find the right Sidney.

This is the only marriage for a Sidney Skeates I can find and he married Ada Wright but it puts him in the right place at the right time.

Marriages Jun 1925 (>99%)
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Skeates Sidney Wright Pancras 1b 148


Three births for a Sidney Skeates from 1900 to 1908.

Births Mar 1901 (>99%)
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Skeates Sidney Sherborne 5a 313

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Births Sep 1903 (>99%)
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Skeates Sidney Wandsworth 1d 581

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Births Sep 1906 (>99%)
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Skeates Sidney Tom Wallingford 2c 307
This one died shortly after birth.

1911 is down for maintenance so I can't look at them at the moment.

I now know the fathers name was Sidney Skeates, and his wfe Catherine usually went by the name Kate

If you don't already have them it may help to get one of the birth certificates. It would give you the father's name if you don't already know it and also would say if Catherine had been married before

I think finding the mother's details is going to be impossible as Brown is such a common name and it looks like she didn't marry the father although it must be the same father as all the sons look the same apart from being different ages.
Also their sons (1 being my partner) also look alike!

That's lovely.
If you need anything else...just shout. There's always someone around willing to help.

she changed her name by deed poll. My partner found out as a teenager that they weren't married. They officially married a bit later after that.

Thought that may be the one. They married quite late. Her surname is interesting had she been married before or is it just coincidence?

If she 'married' quite soon after he was born then he would possibly have been raised in her partners name. It's not uncommon for that to happen.
Who did he marry?

thats interesting, he married as skeates, and my partner his son is also skeates