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I can't seem to find John William England Parents or siblings.
I have him born in 1851, in Garthope Lincolnshire and he married Eliza Axup in 1876 and had what I can find 8 Children.

I think John's Parents were William and Hannah but I am not sure.

Can any one help?

Thanks

Which census have you found him on?

Got the marriage cert for name of his father?

Thank you for your reply,

I found John William England on the 1881 census Married to Eliza.
No Unfortuantely I don't have the Marriage Certificate.

Thanks

Marriages Sep 1876
Axup Eliza Goole 9c 865
England John William Goole 9c 865
Goodall John William Goole 9c 865
Hopton Edward Micklefield Goole 9c 865
Lazenby Harriet Goole 9c 865

Marriages Sep 1876 (>99%)
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Axup Eliza Goole 9c 865
England John William Goole 9c 865
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Is this them? I can't find them in 1881. Where were they? Were they mistranscribed?

1891 England Census
Name: Eliza England
Age: 36
Estimated birth year: abt 1855
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: William England
Gender: Female
Where born: Goole, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Hook
Ecclesiastical parish: Goole
Town: Goole
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Registration district: Goole
Sub-registration district: Goole
Household Members: Name Age
William England 39 - Goole, Yorkshire
Eliza England 36
Mary H England 13
Eliza England 12
Lilly England 10
Robert W England 8
Emma England 5
Tibetha England 3
George England

1871 ??

Name: William England
Age: 21
Estimated birth year: abt 1850
Relation: Servant
Gender: Male
Where born: Whitgift, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Luddington
Town: Garthorpe
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England
Registration district: Goole
Sub-registration district: Swinefleet
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Household schedule number: 106
Household Members: Name Age
John H Pettenger 20
Annie E Pettenger 27
Margaret Bowls 30
William England 21

Thank you for your reply,

Yes this is the correct Family he was known as William not John this is why they were mistranscribed.

It is his parents I am unsure on and not sure where to go with it.

Thanks Jax for your reply,

This does seem to be my Great Great Grandfather.

So he was born in Yorkshire not Lincolnshire? If you purchase the marriage cert it should name his father

jax

Births Sep 1851
England John William Goole 23 319

So where did Garthorpe come from?

1881
Name: William England
Age: 30
Estimated birth year: abt 1851
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Eliza England
Gender: Male
Where born: Whitgift, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Hook
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address: 25 Lower Bridge St
Condition as to marriage: Married

Occupation: Horse... On Railway

Registration district: Goole
Sub-registration district: Goole
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
William England 30
Eliza England 26
Mary H. England 3
Eliza England 2

..........I think the confusion has come from 1871 census where William was living:-
Town: Garthorpe
County/Island: Lincolnshire

This what I found in one census, I must have looked at the incorrect one.

I'm pretty new to this so this is why I need a little help, so thank you

Just Stuck on his Parents now.

Thank you :)

1901 England Census
Name: William England
Age: 49
Estimated birth year: abt 1852
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Eliza England
Gender: Male
Where born: Ousefleet, Yorkshire, England <<<<<<<<<<<<
Civil parish: Goole
Ecclesiastical parish: Goole
Town: Goole
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street Address: 64 Weatherill St

Occupation: Railway Horse Keeper

Registration district: Goole
Sub-registration district: Goole
Household Members: Name Age
William England 49
Eliza England 50
Mary H Shipman 23 - daughter; widow
Eliza England 22
Emma England 14
Tabitha England 12
George England 10
Elsie England 8
Lilly Shipman 3 - grandchild



1861 England Census
Name: John W England
Age: 9
Estimated birth year: abt 1852
Relation: Son
Father's Name: William England
Mother's Name: Hannah England
Gender: Male
Where born: Ousefleet, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Ousefleet
Town: Ousefleet
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street Address: Knipes Cottage

Occupation: scholar

Registration district: Goole
Sub-registration district: Swinefleet
Household Members: Name Age
William England 47 - Ag lab; Garthorpe, Lincolnshire
Hannah England 37 - Armin, Yorkshire (Airmyn? - couple of miles from Goole.)
John W England 9
George England 5
Robert England 2

Ah Thank you very much Ozibird,

Sorry for the confusion

1851 England Census
Name: Hannah England
Age: 29
Estimated birth year: abt 1822
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: Willm England
Gender: Female
Where born: Armin, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Ousefleet
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street Address: none recorded

Registration district: Goole
Sub-registration district: Swinefleet
Household Members: Name Age
Willm England 34 - Labourer; Garthorpe
Hannah England 29

Thank you very much, Were there any ther children recorded?

Thanks again.

No. It looks like John W may have been the eldest. Or the eldest survivor.

Ozi

See what I mean?

Births Jun 1842
ENGLAND William Goole 23 238
Deaths Jun 1842
ENGLAND William Goole 23 162

Births Sep 1843
ENGLAND William Goole 23 239
Deaths Sep 1843
ENGLAND William Goole 23 145

Marriages Jun 1839
BROWN Hannah Goole 23 213 ??????????????
DOOKS Jane Goole 23 213
ENGLAND William Goole 23 213 <<<<<<<<<<
LEE Robert Goole 23 213
NEWBY Mary Goole 23 213
PHILLIPS Hannah Goole 23 213 ???????????????
RICHARDSON George Goole 23 213
SYKES Reuben Goole 23 213


This is the only marriage for a William England in Goole before 1855. The next one is in 1929!!