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Yvonne

Yvonne Report 7 Aug 2010 14:03

I have just received my Grandfather's birth cert. to find out who his Mother was as I only had Clara. It says formerly Hoar, that is what it looks very much like. I can only find her in the 1901 census with Husband and Children. She was according to that born in 1869 in Aston Birmingham, where she met and married her Husband before moving to Surrey in 1898 approx. I can find trees and records for Albert her husband, but absolutely nothing for her, no census, birth or marriage, only a death record but that is under Clara Lanchester in 1951. Now I don't know where to go from here, maybe missed something. Any ideas please

PaulaW

PaulaW Report 7 Aug 2010 14:08

Guessing

1881

Edwd. HOARE Head W Male 43 Exeter, Devon, England Hairdresser
Emily Patience HOARE Daur U Female 20 Bham, Warwick, England Domestic Servt
Clara Louisa HOARE Daur U Female 18 Bham, Warwick, England Scholar
Frank HOARE Son U Male 12 Exeter, Devon, England Scholar
Kate Adeline HOARE Daur U Female 11 Exeter, Devon, England Scholar


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Source Information:
Dwelling 54 Ladypool Lane Private
Census Place Aston, Warwick, England
Family History Library Film 1341721
Public Records Office Reference RG11
Piece / Folio 3019 / 89
Page Number 10


Marriages Dec 1887 (>99%)
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FLEMMING Ellen Aston 6d 454
Hoare Clara Aston 6d 454
LANCHESTER Albert Aston 6d 454
PHILLIPS John Aston 6d 454



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PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 7 Aug 2010 14:09

What is your Grandfathers surname?

PaulaW

PaulaW Report 7 Aug 2010 14:10

I thinks its Lanchester according to the marriage I have posted?

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 7 Aug 2010 14:11

Can you give us Albert's surname please?

Yvonne

Yvonne Report 7 Aug 2010 14:12

Thank you, I will try that. On the certificate there is no E, but maybe they weren't asked to spell it.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 7 Aug 2010 14:13


1911 census - household transcription
Person: LANCHESTER, Clara
Address: 101 Windmill Road West Croydon

1911 address search redefine current search
Name Relation Condition/
Yrs married Sex Age Birth
Year Occupation Where Born Original
census
image

LANCHESTER, Albert Head Married
24 years M 44 1867 Scalemaker Aston Birmingham VIEW
LANCHESTER, Clara Wife Married
24 years F 42 1869 Scalemaker Bristol Somerset VIEW
EPPS, Emily Daughter Single F 23 1888 Dressmaker Aston Birmingham VIEW
LANCHESTER, Albert Son Single M 20 1891 Aston Birmingham VIEW
LANCHESTER, William Son Single M 19 1892 Carman Driver Aston Birmingham VIEW
LANCHESTER, Charlie Son Single M 16 1895 Carman Driver Aston Birmingham VIEW
LANCHESTER, Gertrude Daughter Single F 13 1898 School Blackfriars London VIEW
LANCHESTER, Bert Son Single M 12 1899 School Blackfriars London VIEW
LANCHESTER, Edie Daughter F 9 1902 School Blackfriars London VIEW
LANCHESTER, George Son M 7 1904 School Penge London VIEW
LANCHESTER, Frederick Son M 2 1909 Croydon Surrey VIEW
EPPS, Albert Boarder Son-In-Law Marred M 22 1889 Chaffeur Motor Driver Penge London VIEW
RG number:
RG14 Piece:
3344 Reference:
RG14PN3344 RG78PN126 RD39 SD3 ED22 SN14

Registration District:
Croydon Sub District:
West Croydon Enumeration District:
22 Parish:
Croydon

Address:
101 Windmill Road West Croydon County:

PaulaW

PaulaW Report 7 Aug 2010 14:13

f its a the correct marriage this is spelt with an E although there are mistransciptions sometimes

Yvonne

Yvonne Report 7 Aug 2010 14:14

Yes, she married Albert Lanchester in Dec 1887 in Aston. My Grandfather was Bertie Lanchester.

Choccy

Choccy Report 7 Aug 2010 14:15


1871

HOARE, Edward Head M Devon VIEW
HOARE, Emily Wife F 45 1826 Oxfordshire VIEW
HOARE, Patience E Daughter F 10 1861 Warwickshire VIEW
HOARE, Clara L Daughter F 7 1864 Warwickshire VIEW
HOARE, Frank Son M 3 1868 Devon VIEW
HOARE, Kate A Daughter F 0 1871 Devon VIEW
GELLEVER, Jane Servant F 14 1857 Devon VIEW

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RG number:
RG10 Piece:
2065 Folio:
27 Page:
10

Registration District:
Exeter Sub District:
St David Enumeration District:
2 Ecclesiastical Parish:


Civil Parish:
St David Municipal Borough:
Exeter Address:
Sidwell Street, St David, Exeter County:
Devonshire

Yvonne

Yvonne Report 7 Aug 2010 14:18

Thank you to everyone who has replied, that has certainly given me a lot to go with. Greatly appreciated

Choccy

Choccy Report 7 Aug 2010 14:21




Births Jun 1863 (>99%)
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HORE Clara Louisa Birmingham 6d 167



PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 7 Aug 2010 14:22

Is the 1911 your family?
It states Clara was born in Bristol Somerset!

Yvonne

Yvonne Report 7 Aug 2010 14:43

Hi Susan, I was just about to ask that. It certainly appears to be. I have the children listed. It was when I first looked up my Grandfather I started with the 1901 census which had her as born in Aston. Confused and still haven't found anything as yet.

PricklyHolly

PricklyHolly Report 7 Aug 2010 14:48

The 1911 Census states 12 children were born, 9 still living and 3 had died.

Yvonne

Yvonne Report 7 Aug 2010 14:58

In the 1901 census, there were 6 children, 5 Albert, William, Charlie, Gertie, and Bertie are in the 1911, Emily who would have been 13 doesn't appear and they would have been in Croydon. It definately appears to be right, so confused about where she was born.

Potty

Potty Report 7 Aug 2010 15:05

Emily in the 1911 is Epps not Lanchester. So, was Clara married before to a Mr Epps?

Edit - so

Choccy

Choccy Report 7 Aug 2010 15:10



Emily Lanchester was married to Albert Epps on 1911 census.

Original has her as Emily Lanchester (single), which has been crossed out to say Emily Epps. They have obviously forgotten to change the single to married.


Marriages Mar 1911 (>99%)
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Epps Albert E Croydon 2a 388
Lanchester Emily E Croydon 2a 388



Potty

Potty Report 7 Aug 2010 15:11

Emily is Lanchester in 1901:

1901 England Census
about Emily Lanchester
Name: Emily Lanchester
Age: 13
Estimated birth year: abt 1888
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Albert
Mother's Name: Clara
Gender: Female
Where born: Birmingham; Aston, Worcestershire, England

Civil parish: Southwark Christchurch
Ecclesiastical parish: All Hallows Southwark
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: St Saviour Southwark
Sub-registration district: Christchurch, Southwark
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 232
Household Members: Name Age
Albert Lanchester 34
Clara Lanchester 32
Emily Lanchester 13
Albert Lanchester 10
William Lanchester 9
Charlie Lanchester 6
Gertie Lanchester 3
Bertie Lanchester 2
William Lamb 50


Choccy

Choccy Report 7 Aug 2010 15:12

On all census returns until 1911 Clara was born in Warwickshire.


Here's her probable birth (already posted) and the birth of her sister Patience -


Births Jun 1860 (>99%)
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HORE Patience Emily Kings N 6c 419


Births Jun 1863 (>99%)
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HORE Clara Louisa Birmingham 6d 167