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William DeMalcus GEORGE, Royal Navy 1850's

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o2deb

o2deb Report 13 Jul 2010 07:23

Hi,
I would appreciate any help in finding out about my ggg grandfather. I was told ( not sure) that he was in the Royal navy in England and travelled to Australia in the 1850's.
He would have been in his 20's and it is told that he jumped ship, when it got to Australia.
He married in 1879 in Australia to Elizabeth Lillian (Lillie) Bailey.
He was born in Gloucester at a residence called Cherrington Park.
They had six boys and one girl.
William Ernest Walter
Thomas Edgar DeWheelock
Herbert Hugh DeLuput
Robert Francis
Charles DeMalcus Edward
Emily Mary Naomi
Jno Gethryn Gilbert

They Lived In Bass and then shifted and lived out the rest of their lives in Grantville, Victoria, Australia.

Thankyou to any one who is willing to help me

Quoy

Quoy Report 13 Jul 2010 08:14

????
Berrows Worcester Journal Feb 15th 1862

At St. Johns Church Clifton William Brittan esq of Clifton to Harriet Jane daughter of the Rev W George of Cherrington Park Gloucestershire

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 13 Jul 2010 08:21

?? Father?
1841 England Census
Name: William George
Age: 50
Estimated birth year: abt 1791
Gender: Male
Where born: Gloucestershire, England
Civil parish: Cherington
Hundred: Longtree
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England
Street Address: Cherington

Occupation: Clerk (probably meaning a cleric)

Registration district: Tetbury
Sub-registration district: Tetbury
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
William George 50
Jane George 35
Jane George 8
Walter De George Wielock 6 [Walter de Weelock George on image]
James Wielock 4 } - these two have been mistranscribed as Wielock instead of George.
Emily Wielock 2 }
Jane Hicks 20 - Independent
Nancy Watte 50 - Nurse
Mary Cook 40
Elizabeth Wager 20
Sarah Smart 19
Susan Coole 16
Jane Brown 20
John Beams 20

All the others not of family are servants.

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 13 Jul 2010 08:28

1851 England Census
Name: William George
Age: 60
Estimated birth year: abt 1791
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Jane
Gender: Male
Where born: Cherington, Gloucestershire, England
Civil parish: Cherington
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England
Street Address: Cherington Park

Occupation: Landed Proprietor

Registration district: Tetbury
Sub-registration district: Didmarton
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 17
Household Members:
Name Age
William George 60
Jane George 50 - Preston, Lancashire
Elizabeth George 23
Jane George 18
Walter George 16
Emily George 12 - scholar at home
Anne George 10 - scholar at home
Frederica George 8
George Hagword 29 - Butler
Charles Brownett 23 - Groom
Jane Brown 30 - Nursemaid
Sarah Shipway 23 - Nursemaid
Elizabeth Helmiston 23 - House Maid
Ann Gardner 21 - Kitchen Maid



1861 England Census
Name: William George
Age: 77
Estimated birth year: abt 1784
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Cherrington, Gloucestershire, England
Civil parish: Clifton
Ecclesiastical parish: St John the Evangelist
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England
Street Address: 15 South Parade

Occupation: Rectory of Cherrington, Glos.

Registration district: Clifton
Sub-registration district: Clifton
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 17
Household Members:
Name Age
William George 77
Elizth A George 34
Harriet J George 23
Emily M George 22
Annie Louisa George 19
Fredreca F George 18
Elizabeth George 74 - sister
Catherine Hobbs 26 - cook
Mary Ann Harry 26 - servant
Charlotte Draper 21 - housemaid

Quoy

Quoy Report 13 Jul 2010 08:29

Oh Yes we are on a roll
Berrows Worcester Journal 8th August 1822
At Chedworth Gloucestershire the Rev William George to Jane eldest daughter of the late William Whitehead esq of Preston Lancs

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 13 Jul 2010 08:44

Woo hoo, Quoy.

This is a real possibility for your bloke, 02deb.

1841 England Census
Name: William George
Age: 13
Estimated birth year: abt 1828
Gender: Male
Where born: Gloucestershire, England
Civil parish: Holy Trinity
Hundred: Gloucester City
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England
Street Address:Palace Yard, the College Precincts

Occupation: Pupil, College School

Registration district: Gloucester
Sub-registration district: St Nicholas
Household Members:
Name Age
Arprsie Mascall 60 - Independent
Sophia Mascall 60 - Boarding Housekeeper [It looks like]
Herbert Haines 15
John Phillpott 15
David Morgan 15
John Morgan 13
David Morgan 13
Charles Marklene 13
William George 13
William Longmore 13
Thomas Brown 13
Bedrrie Hickes 12
James Child 11
Mary Reid 25
Elanor Walkins 20

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 13 Jul 2010 08:51

Wonder who these Wielock/De Wielock/DeWheelocks are?

Ozi

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 13 Jul 2010 08:59

1871 England Census
Name: William George
Age: 81
Estimated birth year: abt 1790
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Cherington, Gloucestershire, England
Civil parish: Westbury On Trym
Ecclesiastical parish: Westbury
Town: Bristol
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England
Street Address: Ashley House, Tyndales Park

Occupation: None recorded
Registration district: Clifton
Sub-registration district: Westbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Household schedule number: 66
Household Members:
Name Age
William George 81
Elizabeth George 42 - unmarried daughter, Bourton, Gloucestershire - [Do you think this was where William might've been born?]
Annie George 26 - unmarried daughter, Cherington, Gloucestershire
Frances George 24 - unmarried daughter, Cherington, Gloucestershire
Ellen Doble 30 - Cook
Charlotte Willis 27 - Parlour maid
Mary N Ridler 21 - House Maid

Quoy

Quoy Report 13 Jul 2010 09:21

I would say yes as the parents were wed in gloucestershire but i will have another root around later . Have to stop now granddaughter has arrived .

o2deb

o2deb Report 13 Jul 2010 10:11

Hi Ozi,
Thankyou, does land proprietor mean they owned the land or just lived on the land. Was he a cleric at the church. It seems that my grandfathers name could have been Walter instead of William and he may have taken on his fathers name. As we do believe he ran away from his ship, thus needing to change his name.
I've found a lot of my relatives from England tend to have one name but called another.
Yes the William from the Pupil School does look promising.
The 'DeWheelock' is a middle name and has been carried on through the family for a few more generations. It may have come from somewhere before these Georges, or from the mothers side. I know as much about it as you!

I really appreciate your help
thankyou Debbie

o2deb

o2deb Report 13 Jul 2010 10:35

Thankyou for all your help.
Apparently, Cherrington park stayed in the family until the 1950's. It was quite a large property added to by John George, brother to William.
Do you know where I could check Naval records for England? I only know the sites for Australia and I checked there and they have no connection.
I want to find out if William or Walter joined the Navy.
Your time has been greatly appreciated.
Debbie

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 13 Jul 2010 14:28

I can't say for sure but I think Walter & William are separate people. Walter is at home in 1841 whereas I think I found William at school in 1841. It makes sense that the eldest son would be named after his father.

It is possible William is at sea in 1851. He would've been about 23.

House proprietor usually means owner, & it looks like William snr may have had the living as Rector of Cherrington, though perhaps had a lesser cleric do the everyday business of the church.

Ozi

Potty

Potty Report 13 Jul 2010 15:08

The National Archives has naval records but for ordinary seaman they don't start until 1853. I have checked what there is but no William or Walter George is coming up.

This site tells you what is available:

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/navy.asp

Potty

Potty Report 13 Jul 2010 15:41

There's lots coming up on Google for Cherington Park (only one "r" - there is another one in Warwickshire which has two)

o2deb

o2deb Report 14 Jul 2010 05:37

Thanx Potty,
I will check it out, but if you can't find it, I'll have less of a chance.
I must have spelt it wrong, as the Cherington Park we know about was in Gloucester. At least I think that is correct! I will have to Google it.Much appreciated
Debbie

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 14 Jul 2010 06:51

feom the International Genealogical Index on www.familysearch.org, the Mormon site

This is an Extrac ted record, taken from the parish register


WILLIAM GEORGE Pedigree
Male Family

Marriages:
Spouse: JANE WHITEHEAD Family
Marriage: 30 JUL 1822 Chedworth, Gloucester, England

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Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.

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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
M032082 1754 - 1882 0856926 Film 6901738 Film




sylvia

o2deb

o2deb Report 14 Jul 2010 07:16

Ozi,
you have been a treasure of information thankyou, now I need to google Cherington Park,maybe I will find some more info then
with appreciation
Debbie

Ozibird

Ozibird Report 14 Jul 2010 22:30

Good on you, Debbie.

I noticed that Cherington usually had one 'r' in the censuses. However spelling was more lax then and you get variations.

Ozi

o2deb

o2deb Report 15 Jul 2010 06:01

Thankyou Sylvia,
Should have thought to check the morman site
much appreciated

Debbie

Quoy

Quoy Report 15 Jul 2010 07:22

Do you require any more information from the newspapers ?