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Hi ,Just a thought, I've got William De Malcus George born in 1854 Gloucestershire Married to Lillee in Preston Vic.1879 and then having their children at Bass and Grantville. A little cottage at Grantville still stands and it had above the door the name of cherington. His youngest son Gethyn lived is life there. He was my grandfather.
Back to the story if he jumped ship in the 50's and married in 1879 he would have been 49 starting his family. He died 1905. Death notice in the Argus 23/09/1905
Have I missed a generation? I think there is a few years missing.
I have williams father as Rev. Wm George born in 1791

Do you require any more information from the newspapers ?

Thankyou Sylvia,
Should have thought to check the morman site
much appreciated

Debbie

Good on you, Debbie.

I noticed that Cherington usually had one 'r' in the censuses. However spelling was more lax then and you get variations.

Ozi

Ozi,
you have been a treasure of information thankyou, now I need to google Cherington Park,maybe I will find some more info then
with appreciation
Debbie

feom the International Genealogical Index on www.familysearch.org, the Mormon site

This is an Extrac ted record, taken from the parish register


WILLIAM GEORGE Pedigree
Male Family

Marriages:
Spouse: JANE WHITEHEAD Family
Marriage: 30 JUL 1822 Chedworth, Gloucester, England

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Messages:
Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.

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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
M032082 1754 - 1882 0856926 Film 6901738 Film




sylvia

Thanx Potty,
I will check it out, but if you can't find it, I'll have less of a chance.
I must have spelt it wrong, as the Cherington Park we know about was in Gloucester. At least I think that is correct! I will have to Google it.Much appreciated
Debbie

There's lots coming up on Google for Cherington Park (only one "r" - there is another one in Warwickshire which has two)

The National Archives has naval records but for ordinary seaman they don't start until 1853. I have checked what there is but no William or Walter George is coming up.

This site tells you what is available:

http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/navy.asp

I can't say for sure but I think Walter & William are separate people. Walter is at home in 1841 whereas I think I found William at school in 1841. It makes sense that the eldest son would be named after his father.

It is possible William is at sea in 1851. He would've been about 23.

House proprietor usually means owner, & it looks like William snr may have had the living as Rector of Cherrington, though perhaps had a lesser cleric do the everyday business of the church.

Ozi

Thankyou for all your help.
Apparently, Cherrington park stayed in the family until the 1950's. It was quite a large property added to by John George, brother to William.
Do you know where I could check Naval records for England? I only know the sites for Australia and I checked there and they have no connection.
I want to find out if William or Walter joined the Navy.
Your time has been greatly appreciated.
Debbie

Hi Ozi,
Thankyou, does land proprietor mean they owned the land or just lived on the land. Was he a cleric at the church. It seems that my grandfathers name could have been Walter instead of William and he may have taken on his fathers name. As we do believe he ran away from his ship, thus needing to change his name.
I've found a lot of my relatives from England tend to have one name but called another.
Yes the William from the Pupil School does look promising.
The 'DeWheelock' is a middle name and has been carried on through the family for a few more generations. It may have come from somewhere before these Georges, or from the mothers side. I know as much about it as you!

I really appreciate your help
thankyou Debbie

I would say yes as the parents were wed in gloucestershire but i will have another root around later . Have to stop now granddaughter has arrived .

1871 England Census
Name: William George
Age: 81
Estimated birth year: abt 1790
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Cherington, Gloucestershire, England
Civil parish: Westbury On Trym
Ecclesiastical parish: Westbury
Town: Bristol
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England
Street Address: Ashley House, Tyndales Park

Occupation: None recorded
Registration district: Clifton
Sub-registration district: Westbury
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Household schedule number: 66
Household Members:
Name Age
William George 81
Elizabeth George 42 - unmarried daughter, Bourton, Gloucestershire - [Do you think this was where William might've been born?]
Annie George 26 - unmarried daughter, Cherington, Gloucestershire
Frances George 24 - unmarried daughter, Cherington, Gloucestershire
Ellen Doble 30 - Cook
Charlotte Willis 27 - Parlour maid
Mary N Ridler 21 - House Maid

Wonder who these Wielock/De Wielock/DeWheelocks are?

Ozi

Woo hoo, Quoy.

This is a real possibility for your bloke, 02deb.

1841 England Census
Name: William George
Age: 13
Estimated birth year: abt 1828
Gender: Male
Where born: Gloucestershire, England
Civil parish: Holy Trinity
Hundred: Gloucester City
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England
Street Address:Palace Yard, the College Precincts

Occupation: Pupil, College School

Registration district: Gloucester
Sub-registration district: St Nicholas
Household Members:
Name Age
Arprsie Mascall 60 - Independent
Sophia Mascall 60 - Boarding Housekeeper [It looks like]
Herbert Haines 15
John Phillpott 15
David Morgan 15
John Morgan 13
David Morgan 13
Charles Marklene 13
William George 13
William Longmore 13
Thomas Brown 13
Bedrrie Hickes 12
James Child 11
Mary Reid 25
Elanor Walkins 20

Oh Yes we are on a roll
Berrows Worcester Journal 8th August 1822
At Chedworth Gloucestershire the Rev William George to Jane eldest daughter of the late William Whitehead esq of Preston Lancs

1851 England Census
Name: William George
Age: 60
Estimated birth year: abt 1791
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Jane
Gender: Male
Where born: Cherington, Gloucestershire, England
Civil parish: Cherington
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England
Street Address: Cherington Park

Occupation: Landed Proprietor

Registration district: Tetbury
Sub-registration district: Didmarton
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 17
Household Members:
Name Age
William George 60
Jane George 50 - Preston, Lancashire
Elizabeth George 23
Jane George 18
Walter George 16
Emily George 12 - scholar at home
Anne George 10 - scholar at home
Frederica George 8
George Hagword 29 - Butler
Charles Brownett 23 - Groom
Jane Brown 30 - Nursemaid
Sarah Shipway 23 - Nursemaid
Elizabeth Helmiston 23 - House Maid
Ann Gardner 21 - Kitchen Maid



1861 England Census
Name: William George
Age: 77
Estimated birth year: abt 1784
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Cherrington, Gloucestershire, England
Civil parish: Clifton
Ecclesiastical parish: St John the Evangelist
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England
Street Address: 15 South Parade

Occupation: Rectory of Cherrington, Glos.

Registration district: Clifton
Sub-registration district: Clifton
ED, institution, or vessel: 15
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 17
Household Members:
Name Age
William George 77
Elizth A George 34
Harriet J George 23
Emily M George 22
Annie Louisa George 19
Fredreca F George 18
Elizabeth George 74 - sister
Catherine Hobbs 26 - cook
Mary Ann Harry 26 - servant
Charlotte Draper 21 - housemaid

?? Father?
1841 England Census
Name: William George
Age: 50
Estimated birth year: abt 1791
Gender: Male
Where born: Gloucestershire, England
Civil parish: Cherington
Hundred: Longtree
County/Island: Gloucestershire
Country: England
Street Address: Cherington

Occupation: Clerk (probably meaning a cleric)

Registration district: Tetbury
Sub-registration district: Tetbury
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
William George 50
Jane George 35
Jane George 8
Walter De George Wielock 6 [Walter de Weelock George on image]
James Wielock 4 } - these two have been mistranscribed as Wielock instead of George.
Emily Wielock 2 }
Jane Hicks 20 - Independent
Nancy Watte 50 - Nurse
Mary Cook 40
Elizabeth Wager 20
Sarah Smart 19
Susan Coole 16
Jane Brown 20
John Beams 20

All the others not of family are servants.

????
Berrows Worcester Journal Feb 15th 1862

At St. Johns Church Clifton William Brittan esq of Clifton to Harriet Jane daughter of the Rev W George of Cherrington Park Gloucestershire