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o2deb
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13 Jul 2010 07:23 |
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Hi, I would appreciate any help in finding out about my ggg grandfather. I was told ( not sure) that he was in the Royal navy in England and travelled to Australia in the 1850's. He would have been in his 20's and it is told that he jumped ship, when it got to Australia. He married in 1879 in Australia to Elizabeth Lillian (Lillie) Bailey. He was born in Gloucester at a residence called Cherrington Park. They had six boys and one girl. William Ernest Walter Thomas Edgar DeWheelock Herbert Hugh DeLuput Robert Francis Charles DeMalcus Edward Emily Mary Naomi Jno Gethryn Gilbert
They Lived In Bass and then shifted and lived out the rest of their lives in Grantville, Victoria, Australia.
Thankyou to any one who is willing to help me
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Quoy
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13 Jul 2010 08:14 |
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???? Berrows Worcester Journal Feb 15th 1862
At St. Johns Church Clifton William Brittan esq of Clifton to Harriet Jane daughter of the Rev W George of Cherrington Park Gloucestershire
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Ozibird
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13 Jul 2010 08:21 |
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?? Father? 1841 England Census Name: William George Age: 50 Estimated birth year: abt 1791 Gender: Male Where born: Gloucestershire, England Civil parish: Cherington Hundred: Longtree County/Island: Gloucestershire Country: England Street Address: Cherington
Occupation: Clerk (probably meaning a cleric)
Registration district: Tetbury Sub-registration district: Tetbury Neighbors: View others on page Household Members: Name Age William George 50 Jane George 35 Jane George 8 Walter De George Wielock 6 [Walter de Weelock George on image] James Wielock 4 } - these two have been mistranscribed as Wielock instead of George. Emily Wielock 2 } Jane Hicks 20 - Independent Nancy Watte 50 - Nurse Mary Cook 40 Elizabeth Wager 20 Sarah Smart 19 Susan Coole 16 Jane Brown 20 John Beams 20
All the others not of family are servants.
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Ozibird
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13 Jul 2010 08:28 |
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1851 England Census Name: William George Age: 60 Estimated birth year: abt 1791 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Jane Gender: Male Where born: Cherington, Gloucestershire, England Civil parish: Cherington County/Island: Gloucestershire Country: England Street Address: Cherington Park
Occupation: Landed Proprietor
Registration district: Tetbury Sub-registration district: Didmarton ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 17 Household Members: Name Age William George 60 Jane George 50 - Preston, Lancashire Elizabeth George 23 Jane George 18 Walter George 16 Emily George 12 - scholar at home Anne George 10 - scholar at home Frederica George 8 George Hagword 29 - Butler Charles Brownett 23 - Groom Jane Brown 30 - Nursemaid Sarah Shipway 23 - Nursemaid Elizabeth Helmiston 23 - House Maid Ann Gardner 21 - Kitchen Maid
1861 England Census Name: William George Age: 77 Estimated birth year: abt 1784 Relation: Head Gender: Male Where born: Cherrington, Gloucestershire, England Civil parish: Clifton Ecclesiastical parish: St John the Evangelist County/Island: Gloucestershire Country: England Street Address: 15 South Parade
Occupation: Rectory of Cherrington, Glos.
Registration district: Clifton Sub-registration district: Clifton ED, institution, or vessel: 15 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 17 Household Members: Name Age William George 77 Elizth A George 34 Harriet J George 23 Emily M George 22 Annie Louisa George 19 Fredreca F George 18 Elizabeth George 74 - sister Catherine Hobbs 26 - cook Mary Ann Harry 26 - servant Charlotte Draper 21 - housemaid
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Quoy
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13 Jul 2010 08:29 |
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Oh Yes we are on a roll Berrows Worcester Journal 8th August 1822 At Chedworth Gloucestershire the Rev William George to Jane eldest daughter of the late William Whitehead esq of Preston Lancs
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Ozibird
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13 Jul 2010 08:44 |
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Woo hoo, Quoy.
This is a real possibility for your bloke, 02deb.
1841 England Census Name: William George Age: 13 Estimated birth year: abt 1828 Gender: Male Where born: Gloucestershire, England Civil parish: Holy Trinity Hundred: Gloucester City County/Island: Gloucestershire Country: England Street Address:Palace Yard, the College Precincts
Occupation: Pupil, College School
Registration district: Gloucester Sub-registration district: St Nicholas Household Members: Name Age Arprsie Mascall 60 - Independent Sophia Mascall 60 - Boarding Housekeeper [It looks like] Herbert Haines 15 John Phillpott 15 David Morgan 15 John Morgan 13 David Morgan 13 Charles Marklene 13 William George 13 William Longmore 13 Thomas Brown 13 Bedrrie Hickes 12 James Child 11 Mary Reid 25 Elanor Walkins 20
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Ozibird
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13 Jul 2010 08:51 |
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Wonder who these Wielock/De Wielock/DeWheelocks are?
Ozi
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13 Jul 2010 08:59 |
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1871 England Census Name: William George Age: 81 Estimated birth year: abt 1790 Relation: Head Gender: Male Where born: Cherington, Gloucestershire, England Civil parish: Westbury On Trym Ecclesiastical parish: Westbury Town: Bristol County/Island: Gloucestershire Country: England Street Address: Ashley House, Tyndales Park
Occupation: None recorded Registration district: Clifton Sub-registration district: Westbury ED, institution, or vessel: 4 Household schedule number: 66 Household Members: Name Age William George 81 Elizabeth George 42 - unmarried daughter, Bourton, Gloucestershire - [Do you think this was where William might've been born?] Annie George 26 - unmarried daughter, Cherington, Gloucestershire Frances George 24 - unmarried daughter, Cherington, Gloucestershire Ellen Doble 30 - Cook Charlotte Willis 27 - Parlour maid Mary N Ridler 21 - House Maid
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Quoy
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13 Jul 2010 09:21 |
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I would say yes as the parents were wed in gloucestershire but i will have another root around later . Have to stop now granddaughter has arrived .
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o2deb
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13 Jul 2010 10:11 |
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Hi Ozi, Thankyou, does land proprietor mean they owned the land or just lived on the land. Was he a cleric at the church. It seems that my grandfathers name could have been Walter instead of William and he may have taken on his fathers name. As we do believe he ran away from his ship, thus needing to change his name. I've found a lot of my relatives from England tend to have one name but called another. Yes the William from the Pupil School does look promising. The 'DeWheelock' is a middle name and has been carried on through the family for a few more generations. It may have come from somewhere before these Georges, or from the mothers side. I know as much about it as you!
I really appreciate your help thankyou Debbie
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o2deb
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13 Jul 2010 10:35 |
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Thankyou for all your help. Apparently, Cherrington park stayed in the family until the 1950's. It was quite a large property added to by John George, brother to William. Do you know where I could check Naval records for England? I only know the sites for Australia and I checked there and they have no connection. I want to find out if William or Walter joined the Navy. Your time has been greatly appreciated. Debbie
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Ozibird
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13 Jul 2010 14:28 |
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I can't say for sure but I think Walter & William are separate people. Walter is at home in 1841 whereas I think I found William at school in 1841. It makes sense that the eldest son would be named after his father.
It is possible William is at sea in 1851. He would've been about 23.
House proprietor usually means owner, & it looks like William snr may have had the living as Rector of Cherrington, though perhaps had a lesser cleric do the everyday business of the church.
Ozi
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Potty
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13 Jul 2010 15:08 |
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The National Archives has naval records but for ordinary seaman they don't start until 1853. I have checked what there is but no William or Walter George is coming up.
This site tells you what is available:
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/documentsonline/navy.asp
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Potty
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13 Jul 2010 15:41 |
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There's lots coming up on Google for Cherington Park (only one "r" - there is another one in Warwickshire which has two)
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o2deb
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14 Jul 2010 05:37 |
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Thanx Potty, I will check it out, but if you can't find it, I'll have less of a chance. I must have spelt it wrong, as the Cherington Park we know about was in Gloucester. At least I think that is correct! I will have to Google it.Much appreciated Debbie
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14 Jul 2010 06:51 |
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feom the International Genealogical Index on www.familysearch.org, the Mormon site
This is an Extrac ted record, taken from the parish register
WILLIAM GEORGE Pedigree Male Family Marriages: Spouse: JANE WHITEHEAD Family Marriage: 30 JUL 1822 Chedworth, Gloucester, England
------------- Messages: Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date.
----------- Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: M032082 1754 - 1882 0856926 Film 6901738 Film
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o2deb
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14 Jul 2010 07:16 |
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Ozi, you have been a treasure of information thankyou, now I need to google Cherington Park,maybe I will find some more info then with appreciation Debbie
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Ozibird
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14 Jul 2010 22:30 |
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Good on you, Debbie.
I noticed that Cherington usually had one 'r' in the censuses. However spelling was more lax then and you get variations.
Ozi
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o2deb
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15 Jul 2010 06:01 |
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Thankyou Sylvia, Should have thought to check the morman site much appreciated
Debbie
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Quoy
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15 Jul 2010 07:22 |
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Do you require any more information from the newspapers ?
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