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The thread below has successfully sorted Johns linneage to George Hall 1849 Rawcliffe and I am now looking for George with his family in 1861 based on
Hall George 1849 Rawcliffe Goole, Snaith

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From the G.R. single line census I have found :-

Births Mar 1887
Hall John Hunslet
9b 290

I believe this matches John Hall who got married in Leeds in 1910 and on his marriage certificate he had a father George deceased, Railway Signalman. Does the 1891 census confirm this please.


Many thanks,
Frances

Isn't that the details for his birth

Whats the info you have found from the G.R. single line census

1891

John Hall
Age: 4
Estimated birth year: abt 1887
Relation: Son
Father's Name: George
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Male
Where born: Leeds, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Templenewsam
Ecclesiastical parish: Leeds St Hildas All Saints
Town: Osmondthorpe
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Hunslet
Sub-registration district: Whitkirk
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
George Hall 41
Elizabeth Hall 35
George Hall 12
Mary Hall 11
Elizabeth Hall 6
John Hall 4
Annie Hall 7/12



You'll need to buy the B/C to know if it is the correct one

Thank you Julie. He gave his age as 23 when he got married and this John is the only one who matches, born in Leeds.

Frances

No i meant to know if those birth detail that you posted matched the John Hall that you were looking for in 1891

This birth could match the 1891 census

John Hall
Year of Registration: 1888
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Leeds (1837-1929)
County: Yorkshire - West Riding
Volume: 9b
Page: 397 (click to see oth

Hi Julie,
I have just had another look at the marriage for John and it was in March 1910 so I don't think the 1888 birth would let him be 23. Also a witness is Annie Hall and the census you have given me has a sister Annie. I have also heard Witkirk mentioned in connection with this family.
My efforts since you posted the census have been spent on trying to find the family in 1881 but neither George c.1878 or Mary c.1880 are showing up. Were they actually born somewhere other than Leeds please?

Frances

Ok ...but ages are not always correct

All i was trying to point out was don't assume the birth you have found is your John Hall

I wasn't saying that the census isn't your John

1881

George Hall
Age: 31
Estimated birth year: abt 1850
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Rawcliffe, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Templenewsam and Thorpe Stapletn
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Street Address: Neville Hill
Condition as to marriage: Widow
Education:

Employment status:

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Occupation: Railway Signalman
Registration district: Hunslet
Sub-registration district: Whitkirk
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
George Hall 31
Elizabeth Cawood 26
George Hall 3
Mary C. Hall 1
Mary Cawood 10

Thank you Julie, I just found George senior in 1901 with a birth in Rawcliffe and Railway Signalman which pinpointed him in 1881! Of course I didn't know his first wife had died and he didn't marry Elizabeth Cawood until Dec Qtr 1882.......... but I do now.

nudge for George in 1861 please

1861 England Census
about George Hall
Name: George Hall
Age: 12
Estimated birth year: abt 1849
Relation: Son
Father's Name: George
Mother's Name: Harriet
Gender: Male
Where born: Rawcliffe, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Rawcliffe
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:...South Side Road

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Goole
Sub-registration district: Snaith
ED, institution, or vessel: 6
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 24
Household Members: Name Age
George Hall 44...Ag Lab....Newcastle Upon Tyne
Harriet Hall 40....Burton? Yorkshire
George Hall 12
Elizabeth Hall 5
Rhoads Hall 5

Children all born in Rawcliffe

1871 England Census
about George Hall
Name: George Hall
Age: 21
Estimated birth year: abt 1850
Relation: Grandson
Gender: Male
Where born: Rawcliffe, Yorkshire, England
Civil parish: Rawcliffe
Ecclesiastical parish: Rawcliffe
Town: Rawcliffe
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England
Registration district: Goole
Sub-registration district: Snaith
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Household schedule number: 81
Household Members: Name Age
Grace Plaxton 76...Head...Widow...School Mistress...Hoyland, Yorkshire
George Hall 21....Grandson...Shoe Maker...Rawcliffe
Elizth Hall 15...Granddaughter...Ag Lab...Rawcliffe

Thank you Christina. The parents seem quite old, I wonder if they had earlier children? The birth place of Newcastle for George senior is interesting as son George's first two children were born in Northumberland. Perhaps he went to stay with a relative up there and that was where he found his first wife......? Looks like there's a bit more to fathom out with this family!

Two more children shown on the 1851...

1851 England Census
about George Hall
Name: George Hall
Age: 2
Estimated birth year: abt 1849
Relation: Son
Father's Name: George
Mother's Name: Harriet
Gender: Male
Where born: Rawcliffe, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Snaith
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:.....Bell Lane

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Goole
Sub-registration district: Swinefleet
ED, institution, or vessel: 1b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 160
Household Members: Name Age
George Hall 35....Ag Lab....Newcastle, Durham???
Harriet Hall 31....Britton???, Yorkshire
William Hall 5
George Hall 2
Grace Hall 1 Mo

Children all born in Rawcliffe

Thank you Christina, I haven't seen Grace in later census so she must have died before 1861. I have found Harriet as the daughter of Grace Plaxton but Plaxton was her second marriage so that search became somewhat convoluted!

1841...Grace Rhodes, George & Harriet Hall are all in the same household.


1841 England Census
about Grace Rhodes
Name: Grace Rhodes
Age: 45
Estimated birth year: abt 1796
Gender: Female
Where born: Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Snaith
Hundred: Osgoldcross (Lower Division)
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:.....River side

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Goole
Sub-registration district: Snaith
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Grace Rhodes 45....School Mistress



1841 England Census
about George Hall
Name: George Hall
Age: 20
Estimated birth year: abt 1821
Gender: Male
Where born: Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Snaith
Hundred: Osgoldcross (Lower Division)
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:......River Side

Occupation: View image

Registration district: Goole
Sub-registration district: Snaith
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
George Hall 20....Ag Lab
Harriet Hall 20

Harriet's mother & step father in 1851...

1851 England Census
about Grace Plaxton
Name: Grace Plaxton
Age: 55
Estimated birth year: abt 1796
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: William
Gender: Female
Where born: Higholand, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Snaith
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:.....Water Side

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View image

Registration district: Goole
Sub-registration district: Swinefleet
ED, institution, or vessel: 1b
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 66
Household Members: Name Age
William Plaxton 64 ....Coal Porter...Rawcliffe
Grace Plaxton 55 ...School Dame

And again in 1861 ....with their granddaughter Grace....


1861 England Census
about Grace Plaxton
Name: Grace Plaxton
Age: 66
Estimated birth year: abt 1795
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: William
Gender: Female
Where born: Oilland, Yorkshire, England

Civil parish: Rawcliffe
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Street Address:.....River Side

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View image

Registration district: Goole
Sub-registration district: Snaith
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 147
Household Members: Name Age
William Plaxton 76 Head....Ag Lab....Rawcliffe
Grace Plaxton 66...Wife...School Mistress
Grace Hall 10..Granddaughter...Rawcliffe.

Thanks for all the extra Christine, so Grace not dead! George and Harriet seem keen to farm their children out. Grace Plaxton - Grace Rhodes - Grace Allott 1797 Hoyland. I did get there eventually.