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Hello Barry

Thanks for looking and I will pass that on to my friend in Australia although I'm pretty sure it's not the Henry on the 1891 because I actually found his birth this morning at the Jersey Registry Office - so not born in Shoreditch at all, it could well be a connection. He rejoiced in the given names of Henry Richard Resistance and the parents were Henry Hassell and Jessie Baker as I had hoped.

Sorry if folks are confused.

All I was really after was thoughts on what the child Henry's surname might be.

I knew that Lucy,(former married name Baker) the grandmother in the 1891 had a daughter called Jessie Baker and that there was a Jessie Hassell on the 1891 married to a Henry - the musician from Leicester - and was hoping that people with more experience than me would confirm that the son/grandson Henry's name could be read as Hassell, which would tie the 2 families together. Hope that's not made things more confusing!

As always the people on these boards deliver above and beyond.

Many Thanks

St. George Parish Church is in Rutland Street, Leicester. I don't know where the Manchester/Lancashire comes in.

Ozi

Plodding along behind......

1911 census transcription details for: 16 Chevalier Road St Helier Jersey
RG14PN34897 RG78PN2013A RD637 SD3 ED19 SN71

Reg. District: Jersey Sub District:
Parish: St Helier Enum. District: 19
Address: 16 Chevalier Road St Helier Jersey
County: Jersey

HASSELL, Henry Head Married M 55 1856 Collector Pearl Life Assurance St Georges Parish Leicester (which-news to me- is either in Lancs or Manchester) editing this-that's what it says on the 1911 image
HASSELL, Jessie F Wife Married
30 years F 52 1859 Jersey St Heliers Parish

They say they've had 3 children. 3 still living. So far I've only seen Reg* and Flo*.

I don't quite get where the Baker name crops up though.

Maureen

Aaah! Well that makes sense.....

Thanks Rambling Rose and Madmeg, it's all becoming clear!
I think!!!

Cathy

Madmeg , all will become clear lol JerseyLily has some other info , so will leave her to tell you herself, but does look like this is Henry's father.

1891 Channel Islands Census
about Henry Hassell
Name: Henry Hassell
Age: 35
Estimated birth year: abt 1856
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Jessie
Gender: Male
Where born: Leicester, England
Civil parish: St Helier
Ecclesiastical parish: St Helier
Town: St Heliers
County/Island: Jersey
Country: Channel Islands
Street Address: View image
Condition as to marriage: View image
Education: View image
Employment status: View image
Occupation: View image
Registration district: Jersey
Sub-registration district: B
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Hassell 35 Musician
Jessie Hassell 33
Florence Hassell 8
Reginald Hassell 4
Edward Roberts 22

Is this supposedly his father?

I can't find one in St Saviour.

Rose, oh Rose, please post the 1891 and 1881 that you have got, cos I can't find either.

I hadn't got this far Cathy. So, are we looking for little Henry b1882 Shoreditch living in the Channel Islands in 1891, a scholar, or are we looking for a totally different Henry who is a musician?

Cathy , Henry Hassell (snr) is also in St Saviour, in 1891 with his wife andfamily, so I am assuming is henry's father...also I have sent 1881 of them in cas JL hasn't seen

i don't how that works either lol

I'm getting confused now?

I thought we were looking for Henry Ha*ell born 1882 in Shoreditch London living in Jersey as a scholar aged 9 with his
Grandparents in 1891?

Who's Henry Hassell, who according to the 1891 Census was a musician from Leicester?

Thanks everyone for your input - Hassell it is then.

Now to find a marriage between Henry Hassell, who according to the 1891 was a musician from Leicester, and Jessie Baker. I'll yell if I get stuck.

I've tried looking for the birth, also for the parents...either way born St Saviours and living in Shoreditch before Henry was born or after vice versa...but with no joy.

I think it could be the double 's'! Therefore Henry Heassell or Henry Hassell if that 'e' is part of the curly 'H'.

If you go to the next page the first household has 'p' in their name and it doesn't look like the letter in your bloke's name. Also they have dressmakers in the family and the enumerator uses that old-fashioned double 's'.

Ozi

Update: Didn't realize Madmeg had sussed it out as well.

Thank you for that Meg, your thoughts on the handwriting pretty much mirror mine.
Sorry about your hassles with someone of that surname - fortunately they're not my ancestors, I'm doing some local digging for a lady in Oz.

I am pretty certain it is Hassell. The H has an extended curly bit as have lots of the enumerator's words beginning with H, e.g. Head. The next letter is "a". The last three letters are "ell". The difficulty is with the middle letter(s). It was the custom back then to write a double-ess as fs, hence my ancestors Cross being written as Crofs. I am pretty sure this surname is "fs" in the middle.

On page 6 (I think) there is a family transcribed as Rabaqae, alternative is Rabasse, and I think the latter is correct.

So I think the surname is Hassell.

That is most unfortunate. I know a living person with that name, who has rejected my on three different job applications, so it is not a name I particularly like!

Very difficult to decide, transcribed as Hayell but looks more like Healell or Healpell - have you tried looking for his birth on the IGI
Liz

That's the next step Rose. I think she married a Henry Hassell only young Henry seems to disappear after this census.

A few to think about there. Thanks

Is 1891 too late for them to be using those funny double s's that look like f's? I was hoping someone might read it as Hassell. It definitely begins Ha, with a very curly H and I think ends in double l

may be easier to find the marriages of Richard's daughter to find name?

Thanks for the reply - I know that Richard's surname is Buesnel - it's the grandson Henry's surname I'm after. I don't think it's Hapell as transcribed.