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Thats your excuse and your sticking to it ,is it Flo??

I dont blame you,I shall use it next year I think.

David....
You just put the icing on my cake,I really thought she was..
Thank you for telling me,its a right pain being left wondering sometimes.

Except I think most of them were born before marriage as we cant find a Hancock/Roberts marriage !!

My Nan was, and her 4 sisters and a brother.
Their parents were married,but not to each other !

have just been informed by my mum that gladys is elizas oldest apparently born before marriage

Ages vary greatly on Census as a rule ,but your Eliza seems to have stayed contant on her year of birth and place,which makes life easier for searching for her.

I am not sure if the birth I posted for Mabel is correct,did she have the other name of Frances?I can check again for her if not.

It has been a pleasure to help someone who stayed around to answer questions for once,so often people post a request and then dont return to answer.
And as you see we move pretty quick here at Genes in trying to find info for people when asked.
Thank you David,I have enjoyed it.

If you need more help on this lot at all no matter how long it is please return here and add a mesage as most of the info to work with is now done.
viv

i am a bit flumoxed here with the amunt you 2 are throwing at me firstly i thought ivy was born 9 months after mabel and now she is 6 months older or have i misread this if my gran was born oct 1903 and mabel born j/f/m quarter of 1904 and then in 1911 she was 5 and born in 1906 or am i just going nuts, i will have a go at sorting things out. and thank you both again for your help at least i now know my grand fathers names and my greatgrandfathers names i am well pleased. this afternoon i didnt have any apart from mr hancock and eliza roberts
thank you very much appreciated

This Gladys cant be your mums sister,I wondered if she was Elizas.

ROBERTS, Gladys Grand Daughter F 0 (5 MOS) 1901
Chalford
Wiltshire


And if you have George William Hancock dying in 1938 then he cant have been legally married to Eliza I would have thoght ,as he was still alive when she married in Mr Smith in 1912,
Divorce was possible back then,but very expensive and hard to get and especially for the working class on the whole.

sorry just had to go out i have the death of george william as 1938 in melksham hospital, gladys is my mums sister born july 1932 she is under the name of hancock as my gran ivy (dont know if she married my grandad) who was berty wines of carlingcott, it was my mum and some of her sisters that were born there.

I cant find a death for George W Hancock,so maybe they werent married and he just disappeared?
Anyone in the family know what happened to him David?

Funny he has the same first names as Mr Smith,but in reverse order?

Florence nor I can find a marriage to George Hancock for Eliza,so maybe they didnt marry Legally for some reason.
But at least you can get her marriage to William Smith to verify her father etc ...


Flo,I think thats because you have been away too long,I havent seen you for a while,how you doing?

So much easier with info David...;)

So she was born a year earlier than you thought .

Name: Rosina Violet I K Hancock
Year of Registration: 1903
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Bath
County: Avon, Somerset
Volume: 5c
Page: 514
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With Gran in 1911 then ,so I have the correct parents and 1881 census for Eliza and all other census then.

HANCOCK, Harriet Head Widow F 64 1847 Pickwick Corsham Wilts
ROBERTS, William James Son Single M 20 1891 Labourer Westbury Wilts
HANCOCK, Ivy Granddaughter F 7 1904 School Batheaston Bath
BRENNAM, Harry Adopted M 2 1909 London District Not Known

Address:
Priory Street Corsham Wiltshire

1891 for Eliza.

Address:
Westbury, Chalford

ROBERTS, Joseph Head Married M 58 1833 Gardener
Westbury
Wiltshire
Chalford
ROBERTS, Harriet Wife Married F 43 1848
Corsham
Wiltshire
ROBERTS, Annie Louisa Daughter Single F 17 1874 Laundry Assistant
Westbury
Wiltshire
Chalford
ROBERTS, Mary Daughter Single F 14 1877
Westbury
Wiltshire
Chalford
ROBERTS, Eliza Daughter Single F 11 1880 Scholar
Westbury
Wiltshire
Chalford
ROBERTS, William James Son M 0 (1M) 1891



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1901 for Eliza,and whos child is Gladys?

Address:
Chalford, Westbury

ROBERTS, Harriet Head Widow F 55 1846 Nurse
Corsham
Wiltshire
ROBERTS, Eliza Daughter Single F 21 1880 Glover
Chalford
Wiltshire
ROBERTS, William Son M 10 1891
Chalford
Wiltshire
ROBERTS, Maggie Daughter F 9 1892
Chalford
Wiltshire
ROBERTS, Gladys Grand Daughter F 0 (5 MOS) 1901
Chalford
Wiltshire

her full name as i know it is rosina violet ivy kate hancock but was always referred to as ivy

1911

IV,E FOUND THEM........
.
Address:
7 Wine Street Bath

HANCOCK, George William Head Married M 25 1886 Brick Layer Labourer Corsham Wilts
HANCOCK, Eliza Wife Married
8 years F 31 1880 Westbury Wilts
HANCOCK, Mabel Daughter F 5 1906 School Bath Som
HANCOCK, Herbert Son M 2 1909 Bath Som
HANCOCK, Irena Daughter F 1 1910 <<<Harriets second name.


So where are Rosina and Leonard?

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Name: Harriet Irene Hancock
Year of Registration: 1910
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Bath
County: Avon, Somerset
Volume: 5c
Page: 470
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??Not too sure of this one.

Name: Frances Mabel Hancock
Year of Registration: 1904
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Bath
County: Avon, Somerset
Volume: 5c
Page: 498
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Wont find Leonard on 1911 I think.

Name: Leonard G Hancock
Year of Registration: 1911
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Mother's Maiden Name: Roberts
District: Bath
County: Avon, Somerset
Volume: 5c
Page: 866
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But Im not finding a birth for Rosina ??
Can you have any luck Florence?

Was Eliza married before Mr hancock came along? Or are they under Roberts.?

Her death age adds up to her birth year anyway !

1938
Smith Eliza 58 Devizes 5a 127

At last a marriage.


Marriages Sep 1913
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Hancock Eliza R Smith Bath 5c 1190
Smith William G Hancock Bath 5c 1190

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David.
If you go to this site

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/

You can order that marriage for £7 with the above refs,do not go anywhere else as you will pay more and that is the ONLY official gov site

Florence.
I cant find EITHER of her supposed marriages,that is why I am trying to find her and /or kids on census.

So I will now try and find this one.

Name: Herbert Hancock
Birth Date: 3 Sep 1895
Death Registration Month/Year: 1983
Registration district: Bath
Inferred County: Avon
Volume: 22
Page: 0264


If that is Elizas child it would make her only 15 when she had him !

Ok Im back.
Wotton under Edge (pronounced [ˈwʊtən]) is a market town within the Stroud district of Gloucestershire,
Or do you mean the one in the Cotswolds?

I will search again now.

Dont worry,I have the patience of a saint(I wish)and we all make mistakes.

harriett was born in 1910 in wootten under edge and died in peasedown st john. herbert was also born in wootten under edge and died in peasedown st john 24 sept 1983.
my apologies to you as i have just found out my gran rosina was born in wootten also but the birth date is correct

thank you for your help i am most greatful

David.
I have to go feed my animals ,I will be back in 30 mins.

Do you have dates of birth for any of the other Hancock children?
I am having trouble locating Rosina on 1911.

This looks like Eliza if your info on her place and date of birth are correct,but really you need one of her marriage certs to verify it.

1881<<free to search.
Address:
Chalford, Westbury
ROBERTS, Joseph Head Married M 49 1832 Garden Lab
Westbury
Wiltshire
ROBERTS, Harriet Wife Married F 43 1838
Corsham
Wiltshire
ROBERTS, Annie Daughter Single F 7 1874 Scholar
Westbury
Wiltshire
ROBERTS, Mary Daughter Single F 4 1877 Scholar
Westbury
Wiltshire
ROBERTS, Eliza Daughter Single F 1 1880
Westbury
Wiltshire