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Please could someone check the 1911 census for a Ray Rayner (female), born 1891 in Whitechapel, Thank you for any help

No one of that name on 1911 - what other details do you have please?

Dea x

Hi Dea, believe her father was Soloman, she married marks schneider in 1913

Could be this one then??

RAYNER, Solomon Head Married M 60 1851 Private Means Amsterdam Resdt VIEW
RAYNER, Leah Wife Married 37 years F 59 1852 Amsterdam Resdt VIEW
RAYNER, Joseph Son Married
7 years M 30 1881 Fruit Hawker London Spitalfields VIEW
RAYNER, Abraham Son Single M 28 1883 Cigar Maker London Spitalfields VIEW
RAYNER, Clara Daughter Single F 25 1886 Cigar Maker London Spitalfields VIEW
RAYNER, Phillip Son Single M 23 1888 Tobacco Lignoring London Mile End New Town VIEW
>>>RAYNER, Rachel Daughter Single F 20 1891 Blouse Machinist London Mile End New Town VIEW
RAYNER, Aaron Son Single M 17 1894 Apprenticed Trousing Cutting London Mile End New Town VIEW
BRYANT, Lizzie Servant Single F 65 1846 General Servant London VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
1598 Reference:
RG14PN1598 RG78PN56 RD21 SD1 ED27 SN38

Registration District:
Mile End Old Town Sub District:
Mile End Old Town South Western EnumerationDistrict:
27 Parish:
Mile End Old Town

Address:
9 Copley ST County:
London


Dea x

Hi dea, thank you thats the right family, im not up on the 1911 census could you tell me, next to name ie leah rayner it states amsterdam resdt VIEW, what does that mean sorry to sound thick

Solomon + Leah were both recorded as Dutch - born in Amsterdam!

Dea x

yep understand that , its where it says view (is there something else to look at). My difficulty is i nly know her mother's name Leah not her surname

View means that you can look at the original image which I have viewed for this info.

Dea x

Dea, Thank you told you i was stupid understand now, thanks for your help

No probs - can't find a marriage for them - perhaps it was in Amsterdam ??

Dea x

How would i go about finding that info

Carrieann, thank you for that info very interesting, im trying to find the maiden name of Leah and don't know how to go about it

carrieann, thanks for your help

Christie, on the 1911 census, son Aaron Rayner is shown as aged 17 and born in Mile End New Town.

In 1901 they are living in Mile End New Town, and son Aaron is shown as aged 6 and born in Spitalfields.

If you search at FreeBMD

http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/cgi/search.pl

for a birth of Aaron Rayner, 1893-1896 (for good measure), this is the only possible candidate:

Births Jun 1894
Rayner Aaron Whitechapel 1c 300

-- he would have been 6 nearly 7 in 1901.

The birth certificate will give his mother's name. You should order it here and only here (private firms that provide the service are ripoffs):

http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/



For info, household in 1891 in Mile End New Town:

Solomon Rayner 40
Leah Rayner 38
Joshua Rayner 10
Abraham Rayner 9
Clara Rayner 4
Philip Rayner 2
Rachel Rayner 3/12


Likely first son's birth:

Births Jun 1880
RAYNER Joseph Whitechapel 1c 328


Here they are in Christ Church, Whitechapel, in 1881:

Solomon Rayner 32 - born Amsterdam
Leah R. Rayner 29 - born Amsterdam
Joseph Rayner (11 months) - born Spitalfields


And that name suggestion from carriann was absolutely spot on.

Searched for a marriage of Solomon R* to Leah.

Marriages Jun 1875
> BUSNACK Leah London C. 1c 158
DE JONGH Solomon London City 1c 158
> Reyna Solomon London City 1c 158
Van Gelder Grietje London C. 1c 158

Here is Leah + family on 1871: at 9, Swan Yard.

1871 England Census
about Leah Busnach
Name: Leah Busnach
Age: 19
Estimated birth year: abt 1852
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Joseph
Mother's Name: Clara
Gender: Female
Where born: Amsterdam
Civil parish: St Mary Whitechapel
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Whitechapel
Sub-registration district: Whitechapel Church
ED, institution, or vessel: 12
Household schedule number: 73
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Busnach 54 Shoe maker , Boot Cleaner
Clara Busnach 52
Michael Busnach 22 Tailor
Leah Busnach 19 Tailoress
Rachel Busnach 9
Rachel Soep 65 sister - wid
Joseph Soep 14 nephew - Cigar maker.

............... All born in Amsterdam, Holland !

Source Citation: Class: RG10; Piece: 521; Folio: 58; Page: 12; GSU roll: 823384.

Source Information:

Dea x

How wonderful are you people thank you very very much

Any idea how i get info on dutch records

For starters, you need the Reyna-Busnach marriage certificate. It should name their fathers. (Dea's 1971 census helps with that of course.)

You gotta make the most of Google, Christie.

I just googled

busnach genealogy

(I'm sure Busnach would be the correct spelling) and the first thing up was this:

http://www.busnach.nl/

"Many years ago my brother started looking in telephone directories all over the world to find Busnach's.
He was travelling a lot and he was very curious about the origin of the Busnach tribe.
Meanwhile my father started searching in the archives of Amsterdam and the Jewish Portuguese graveyard in Ouderkerk (the Netherlands). He only did research on the direct line of his father, grandfather etc. back to the year 1700
After my brother died I took over and did spend many hours in the Amsterdam archive and Internet.
I found Busnach's all over the world and lots of information came to me.
This resulted in a family tree with more than 650 Busnach's, Boesnach's, Boesenach, Busnac's and there spouses."


That sounds like somebody worth contacting. There is a link to click there (the name at the bottom) for sending email. That person also has this site:
http://home.wanadoo.nl/wouter.busnach/index.htm
His site is referred to at several genealogy sites.

Some Jewish genealogy resources are listed here:

http://www.dinur.org/resources/resourceCategoryDisplay.aspx?categoryid=485&rsid=0

And in particular, the Netherlands Society for Jewish Genealogy:

http://www.nljewgen.org/eng/index.html

(Most of the site pages are in Dutch of course, unfortunately.)


I think I'd start by contacting the Amsterdam Busnach above, who should be able to help a great deal on that side, and with where to look for more.

Also, go to FreeBMD and do a search for all events for suname BUSNAC* and no other search terms (no dates, no given names, etc.). There are not a lot.

You'll see a Rachel born 1862 who would seem to be your Leah's sister, from the 1871 census. That birth certificate should give you the surname of Leah's mother Clara. (The 1871 census does say Rachel was born in Amsterdam, but as a ditto, and there is no other Rachel in 1871 for that 1862 birth.)

The Michael who married in 1872 is probably Leah's brother from the 1871 census.

Doing the same for surname Reyna, the first event is the marriage of Solomon and Leah in 1875. The last event is 1886 -- since the family seems to have changed the spelling to Rayner after that.

There is one marriage in 1945 showing at FreeBMD, but since the first name is Jesús, I suspect that is the Spanish surname Reyna. ;)

janeycanack, Thank you very much for that info, i will look into it. I will let you know how i get on