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29 Sep 2009 20:32 |
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Can anyone get me any information on my grandfather Andrews brother who was :John Maxwell born around 1895 in Cathcart Glasgow?, Father was John Maxwell born c1840, Cathcart glasgow and married to Agnes Izat born probably 1840 also in glasgow, Both married : 04/05/1876. Izat Side: Agnes had 2 Son's John ,who maybe was a P.O.W. in Germany 1918 & Andrew ( my granfather), We know of possibly 1 sister Helen Izat who married Alexander Maxwell in 1888 Hutchie area of Glasgow with 1 son Andrew, It may be that Agnes and Helen Izat both sisters married 2 Maxwell brothers. my mum is 65 and has never been able to find most of her family, my greatgran and grandad McCudden dissappeared after leaving my gran in a tennament close and may have moved to England: Hannah McCudden may have been English?, both Hannah and John McCudden were born around 1840? and married 04/05/1855 and went on to have 10 children before they left Scotland, Any help would be so gratefully appreciated, you will never know, Thank You, Linda xx John McCudden who married Hannah McDivett in 1885 2 son's John and Thomas 8 daughters Jean McMillan Agnes 1902-1969 ( my Gran) Sarah Alice Francis Hommer Jeanie McMillan Kate Mary Martin Hannah No info on the parent's after they left Glasgow possibly for England and took the 2 boy's maybe? some or most of the girls where put into care after the mother left them in a tennament close. I would love to give my mum a little bit news on her family, however i am aware that there may be skeletons.
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29 Sep 2009 20:49 |
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SMURFY YOU GOT TWO THREAD THE SAME PLEASE DELETE ONE PLEASE THANK YOU
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29 Sep 2009 20:49 |
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This could be him...
1901 Scotland Census Name: John M Maxwell Age: 2 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1899 Relationship: Son Father's Name: John Mother's Name: Agnes J Gender: Male Where born: Cathcart, Renfrewshire Registration Number: 560B Registration district: Cathcart Burgh Civil parish: Cathcart County: Renfrewshire Address: 18 Bolton Drive ED: 36 Household schedule number: 161 Line: 3 Roll: CSSCT1901_190 Household Members: Name Age John Maxwell 31 Agnes J Maxwell 28 John M Maxwell 2 Sarah M Maxwell 8mo
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29 Sep 2009 21:02 |
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1891
Name: John Maxwell Age: 22 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869 Relationship: Lodger Gender: Male Where born: Ecclefechan, Dumfries Shire Registration Number: 644/12 Registration district: Gorbals Civil parish: Glasgow Govan County: Lanarkshire Address: 172 Hospital St Occupation: Warchouseman (Drapery) ED: 43 Household schedule number: 24 Line: 10 Roll: CSSCT1891_291 Household Members: Name Age Mary Sinclair 70 Robert McCall 3 John Maxwell 22 Joseph Wilson 19 Thomas Black 24 Source Citation: Parish: Glasgow Govan; ED: 43; Page: 4; Line: 10; Roll CSSCT1891_291; Year: 1891.
Occupation on 1901 - Drapery Warehouseman
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29 Sep 2009 21:18 |
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And a poss for Agnes....although on second look there are a number of Agnes Izat/Izatt
1861 Scotland Census Name: Agnes Izat Age: 16 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845 Relationship: Visitor Gender: Female Where born: Wadwick, Fifeshire Registration Number: 685/1 Registration district: St George Civil parish: Edinburgh St Cuthberts County: Midlothian Address: 2 Kerr St ED: 95 Household schedule number: 43 Line: 5 Roll: CSSCT1861_125 Household Members: Name Age Helen Laidlaw 25 A Laidlaw 18 Helen Tinline 18 James Mages 15 Agnes Izat 16 June Izat 13 Jane Collance 45
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No no no Agnes cant have been born 1840-45, would she still be having babies at almost 60 yr old......
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29 Sep 2009 22:00 |
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Not having much luck with the McCudden family i'm afraid.
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29 Sep 2009 22:26 |
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Do you have any of the childrens details at all ?. Maybe that will help.
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29 Sep 2009 22:42 |
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Izat Side: Agnes had 2 Son's John ,who maybe was a P.O.W. in Germany 1918 & Andrew. We know of possibly 1 sister Helen Izat who married Alexander Maxwell in 1888 Hutchie area of Glasgow with 1 son Andrew, It may be that Agnes and Helen Izat both sisters married 2 Maxwell brothers.
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29 Sep 2009 23:13 |
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dont think thats it, as Agnes her sister is not mentioned there. xxx Oh god i feel terrible now with you looking up so many things for me and your getting the run around ,maybe! please take a break now, I do appreciate the help you have been giving me but dont want to take advantage. you are a kind person. xxxx
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29 Sep 2009 23:14 |
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1901 Scotland Census Name: Alexander Maxwell Age: 34 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867 Relationship: Head Spouse's name : Helen Gender: Male Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire Registration Number: 644/9 Registration district: Kelvin Civil parish: Glasgow St Vincent County: Lanarkshire Address: 109 Kent Rd Occupation: Engine Fitter ED: 31 Household schedule number: 144 Line: 15 Roll: CSSCT1901_299 Household Members: Name Age Alexander Maxwell 34 Helen Maxwell 36 John Maxwell 8 Archie Maxwell 6 Alexander Maxwell 3
1891 Scotland Census Name: Alexander Maxwell Age: 24 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1867 Relationship: Head Spouse's name : Helen Gender: Male Where born: Blantyre, Lanarkshire Registration Number: 644/1 Registration district: Bridgeton Civil parish: Glasgow Barony County: Lanarkshire Address: 85 Oswald St Occupation: Engine Fitter ED: 15 Household schedule number: 113 Line: 18 Roll: CSSCT1891_238 Household Members: Name Age Alexander Maxwell 24 Helen Maxwell 26
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29 Sep 2009 23:17 |
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Misty, That could be my great gran and grandads, sister and brother-in-law.
Brill :), :)xxxx John was born around 1895 and my grandad Andrew was 1904
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Netty
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29 Sep 2009 23:30 |
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1871 Maxwell brothers.
Name: Alexand Maxwell Age: 15 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856 Relationship: Son Father's Name: Robert Mother's Name: Easther Gender: Male Where born: Govan, Renfrewshire Registration Number: 646/2 Registration district: Park Civil parish: Govan County: Lanarkshire Address: Young's Row Occupation: Coalminer ED: 4 Household schedule number: 24 Line: 13 Roll: CSSCT1871_144 Household Members: Name Age Robert Maxwell 51 Easther Maxwell 46 John Maxwell 17 Alexand Maxwell 15 Margaret Maxwell 13 Further Maxwell 11 Robert Maxwell 9 Allan Maxwell 7 Janet Maxwell 5 Mary Maxwell 1 Source Citation: Parish: Govan; ED: 4; Page: 6; Line: 13; Roll CSSCT1871_144; Year: 1871.
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29 Sep 2009 23:33 |
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Netty, I see you are still there too, I cant wait to talk to my mum. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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29 Sep 2009 23:37 |
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Smurfy
Have you looked on Scotlandspeople?
The poor relief records for Glasgow are indexed and kept at the Mitchell library in Glasgow so you may find something there about abandoned children there.
EDIT
They also hold the Glasgow newspapers.
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29 Sep 2009 23:39 |
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No I havent, thankyou for that tip:) xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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30 Sep 2009 00:12 |
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The McCudden clan....
1901 Scotland Census Name: John McCudden Age: 39 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862 Relationship: Head Spouse's name : Hannah Gender: Male Where born: Ireland Registration Number: 644/1 Registration district: Bridgeton Civil parish: Glasgow Bridgeton County: Lanarkshire Address: 72 Oswald St Occupation: Bricklayers Labourer ED: 52 Household schedule number: 77 Line: 14 Roll: CSSCT1901_265 Household Members: Name Age John McCudden 39....1862...Ireland Hannah McCudden 33...1868....England Kate McCudden 14...1887...Chocolate Worker Thomas McCudden 12...1889 Mary McCudden 11...1890 John McCudden 9...1892 Hannah McCudden 7..1894 Alice McCudden 3...1898 Francies McCudden 2..1901
All children born Glasgow
1891 Scotland Census Name: John McCadden [John McCudden] Age: 28 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863 Relationship: Head Spouse's name : Hannah Gender: Male Where born: Ireland Registration Number: 644/1 Registration district: Bridgeton Civil parish: Glasgow Barony County: Lanarkshire Address: 62 Muslin St Occupation: Bricklayers Labourer ED: 13 Household schedule number: 47 Line: 9 Roll: CSSCT1891_238 Household Members: Name Age John McCadden 28 Hannah McCadden 22 Kate McCadden 4 Thomas McCadden 2 Mary McCadden 11 months
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30 Sep 2009 00:17 |
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If the 1871 Census for the Maxwell brothers is the correct one, this is them in 1861.
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Name: Alexander Maxwell Age: 5 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1856 Relationship: Son Father's Name: Robert Mother's Name: Hester Gender: Male Where born: Govan, Renfrewshire Registration Number: 646/1 Registration district: Govan Civil parish: Govan County: Renfrewshire Address: Pattisons Row ED: 20 Household schedule number: 42 Line: 5 Roll: CSSCT1861_114 Household Members: Name Age Robert Maxwell 60 Hester Maxwell 36 Archibald Maxwell 12 John Maxwell 7 Alexander Maxwell 5 Margaret Maxwell 3 Hester Maxwell 1 Source Citation: Parish: Govan; ED: 20; Page: 12; Line: 5; Roll CSSCT1861_114; Year: 1861.
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30 Sep 2009 00:45 |
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Greatgrandma Hannah with her family
1871 Scotland Census Name: Hannah McDevitt Age: 2 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869 Relationship: Daughter Father's Name: Thomas Mother's Name: Jane Gender: Female Where born: MacClesfield Registration Number: 644/10 Registration district: Hutchesontown Civil parish: Glasgow Gorbals County: Lanarkshire Address: 88 Main ED: 117 Household schedule number: 70 Line: 14 Roll: CSSCT1871_142 Household Members: Name Age Thomas McDevitt 32...1839...Lanark, Renfrew...Compositer Jane McDevitt 26...1845..Renfrewshire Hannah McDevitt 2 Jane McDevitt 6 mo....Glasgow, Gorbals
1881 Scotland Census Name: Hannah McDevitt Age: 12 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869 Relationship: Daughter Father's Name: Thomas Mother's Name: Jane Gender: Female Where born: England Registration Number: 644/1 Registration district: Bridgeton Civil parish: Glasgow Barony County: Lanarkshire Address: 119 Reid St Occupation: Cotton Factory-Half Timer ED: 55 Household schedule number: 48 Line: 3 Roll: cssct1881_215 Household Members: Name Age Thomas McDevitt 41 Jane McDevitt 38 Hannah McDevitt 12 Jane McDevitt 10
Her birth...
Name: Hannah Shiels McDevitt Year of Registration: 1868 Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep District: MacClesfield County: Cheshire, Derbyshire Volume: 8a Page: 132
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30 Sep 2009 00:56 |
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There is a tree on Ancestry that has the following information. Needless to say, the info will need confirming, but it might help you along a little.
Hannah Shields McDevitt b. 1868 Macclesfield, Cheshire. John McCudden, b. 1861, Ireland . Married in 1885 Glasgow
Parents of Hannah -
Thomas McDevitt b. 1839, Glasgow. Jane Morris b. 1842, Paisley. Married - 11 June 1866, Greenock.
Hanna's siblings
Margaret Shields McDevitt b. 8th Aug 1866, Greenock.Renfrewshire Scotland. Married John O'Hara (b, 6 Sept 1867, Bridgeton). on 7 JUL 1888 Sacred Heart Chapel, Glasgow. Margaret & John had 11 children.
Jane Morris McDevitt b. 1 OCT 1870 Greenock, Renfrewshire Scotland. Died 1 DEC 1909 Bridgeton .
Off to bed now, me thinks lol.
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30 Sep 2009 01:08 |
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And this could be your Greatgrandad John with his family ?
1871 Scotland Census Name: John McCudden Age: 5 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866 Relationship: Son Father's Name: Francis Mother's Name: Elizabeth Gender: Male Where born: Ireland Registration Number: 888 Registration district: Kirkcowan Civil parish: Kirkcowan County: Wigtownshire Address: Spittal Cott 1 Occupation: Scholar ED: 1 Household schedule number: 13 Line: 11 Roll: CSSCT1871_189 Household Members: Name Age Francis McCudden 30...1841...Ireland...Ploughman Elizabeth McCudden 30...1841...Ireland..Ploughmans Wife James L McCudden 11...1860..England Rosanna McCudden 8...1863...England Francis McCudden 6...1865..Ireland John McCudden 5...1866...Ireland Mary McCudden 3...1868...Ireland Robert McCudden 1....1870...Kirkcowen, Wigtown Robert McCudden 1day....1871....Kirkcowen, Wigtown
1881 Scotland Census Name: John McCudden Age: 15 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866 Relationship: Son Father's Name: Francis Mother's Name: Elizabeth Gender: Male Where born: Ireland Registration Number: 897 Registration district: Sorbie Civil parish: Sorbie County: Wigtownshire Address: Orchardtown Farm House Occupation: Out Door Worker ED: 3 Household schedule number: 23 Line: 22 Roll: cssct1881_335 Household Members: Name Age Francis McCudden 39 Elizabeth McCudden 38 Rose McCudden 66....Mother of Francis...Ireland John McCudden 15 Mary McCudden 14 Robert McCudden 11 Elizabeth McCudden 10...**mistranscribed in 1871 as Robert**
My bed is calling now :0
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