Find Ancestors

Vicci ........ You are a star!! Thank you so much for that. So, it appears that Amy belonged to Thomas junior and was therefore the grand daughter of Thomas senior. Quite a coincidence that both Thomas' had ex wives called Eliza too.

Mystery solved....... thanks once again!

Very best wishes
Hilary

Name: Thomas Willmott Hunt - cheesemonger - bachelor
Age: Full Age
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851
Spouse Name: Eliza Morris
Record Type: Marriage
Event Date: 20 Apr 1851
Parish: Christ Church, Rotherhithe
County: Middlesex
Borough: Southwark
Father Name: Thomas Hunt - cheesemonger
Spouse Father Name: Joseph Morris - yeoman

another marriage for you to look at

Marriages Jun 1851 (>99%)

Hunt Thomas Willomath Rotherhithe 4 491 Scan available - click to view

Morris Eliza Rotherhithe 4 491 Scan available - click to view

this is on the basis that Amy was living with grandmother Mary Morris

Vicci

Sorry, I was replying to your previous posting and didn't pick up your latest until now.

I don't know Thomas Willomatt Hunt junior's date of birth but it appears to be around 1827, according to 1851 census - shows family living at 142 Whitechapel Rd, Whitechapel, Tower Hamlets.

Thomas head of household aged 45 and a cheesemonger,
Eliza Hunt his wife aged 45 of Datchett, Bucks,
Thomas Hunt aged 24, born Datchett
George Hunt aged 22, born Windsor
and the following unrelated - Stephen Hermitag aged 21 (shopman), Robert Bicker aged 19 (porter), Richard Tappender aged 24 (Barman) and Mary Stelland aged 29, (House servant) who was born in Cork, Ireland

The death certificate I hold for Thomas junior states he died aged 65 in Sept 1891 in Westminster. George his brother died March 1889 aged 61 years according to his death certificate.

Will pick up any further queries tomorrow as I wont be able to get up for work ........(!)

Nite
Hilary x

Vicci - Thanks for supplying the 1871 marriage I mentioned earlier, for Thomas Hunt senior.

It appears that he probably lived with Martha Harvey for a long while and their daughter was born in 1861. He died in 1872, a year after the marriage so possibly knew that he was dying then, hence marrying Martha.

Thomas senior was previously married to Eliza Bennetts and I don't know when she died. I have a couple of possible dates for Amy's birth so guess that I need to purchase the birth certificates to establish which Eliza her mother actually was to narrow down whether her father was Thomas senior or Thomas junior.

A very grateful thanks for all your help.
Time for bed!

Best wishes
Hilary

also details of George , birth death etc

Hilary

can you post the details of the 1827 Thomas

ie birth

census records etc

Births Mar 1861 (>99%)

Births Sep 1861 (>99%)
HUNT Martha Jane W Ham 4a 7 Scan available - click to view
HUNT Martha Louise Islington 1b 180 Scan available - click to view

Marriages Sep 1871 (>99%)

Harvey Martha Pancras 1b 43 Scan available - click to view
Hunt Thomas Willomatt Pancras 1b 43 Scan available - click to view

Thank you everyone for your help so far.

Vicci...... oh nooooo, not another Thomas Willomatt Hunt! Am wondering whether Amy and Thomas Willomatt Hunt Junior x 2 are the estranged children of Thomas Willomatt Hunt junior born 1827. He definately had a daughter called Martha too as she appears on his death certificate as the infomant and also in her Uncle George's Will as "Martha, my brother Thomas' daughter". The 1871 census is so confusing as it appears that there is another young Martha belonging to Thomas Hunt senior.

What a pickle!

Thanks again
Hilary

Births Dec 1856 (>99%)

Hunt Thomas Willomatt W Ham 4a 5

1861

Name: Amy W Hunt
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation: Daughter
Mother's Name: Eliza
Gender: Female
Where born: Kingsland, Middlesex, England

Civil parish: Hackney St John
Ecclesiastical parish: West Hackney
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street Address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

View image

Registration district: Hackney
Sub-registration district: West Hackney
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 161
Household Members:
Name Age
Benjamine Show 30
Ellen Show 36
Sarah Ann Munday 48
Eliza Hunt 30 Lodger b. Harlow, Essex, England
Thomas Wm Hunt 4 b. Kingsland, Middlesex, England
Amy W Hunt 1

Amy actually born in 1859

Births Jun 1859 (>99%)
HUNT Amy Willom_tt Hackney 1b 317

lving with grandmother in 1871

Name: Amy Hunt
Age: 11
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860
Relation: Granddaughter
Gender: Female
Where born: Hackney, Middlesex, England
Civil parish: Hackney St John
Ecclesiastical parish: West Hackney
Town: Kingsland
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Hackney
Sub-registration district: West Hackney
ED, institution, or vessel: 16a
Household schedule number: 45
Household Members:
Name Age
Mary Morris 70
Amy Hunt 11

1871

Thomas Hunt
Age: 60
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Martha
Gender: Male
Where born: Middlesex, England
Civil parish: West Ham
Ecclesiastical parish: St John
Town: Stratford
County/Island: Essex
Country: England
Registration district: West Ham
Sub-registration district: Stratford
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Household schedule number: 14
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Hunt 60 retired merchant
Martha Hunt 47
Maria Glenser 20
Samuel Glenser 20
Martha Hunt 11 daughter b. Stratford, Essex, England
Emma Summers 22

Incase these are related.

1911 census
Elizabeth Willmott head single 52 Hackney occ boarding house keeper.
Florence Edith Willmott sister single 48 Hackney occ clerk.
Amy Willmott sister single 45 Hackney no occ.
Elizabeth Willmott niece single 19 Lee Kent no occ.
4 boarders
address 51Wray Crescent Tollington Park N

Thanks for your replies. Thomas Hunt senior was a cheesemonger but so was Thomas Hunt junior for a while although junior was a publican in Westminster when he died in Sept 1891 so the birth certificate will not help as the two names are the same.

I've tried to locate a census to verify who Amy lives with but am having trouble locating.

Thanks
Hilary

MArtha baptised 25 Sept 1861 born 12 May 1861

father Thomas Grocer in Stratford

Martha Hunt
Record Type: Baptism
Date: 25 Sep 1861
Father's Name: Thomas Wilmott Hunt
Mother's Name: Martha Hunt
Parish: Saint Mary Stratford Bow
Borough: Tower Hamlets
County: Middlesex

The only way to be sure who her father is will be to get her birth cert

Amy's parent's

Thomas occupation cheesemonger
address Hertford Road

are you able to match up with census???

Marriages Jun 1899 (>99%)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Hunt Amy Willamott Hackney 1b 954