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Hilary
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23 Sep 2009 23:45 |
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Hi
I have just discovered the existence of Amy Willomatt Hunt who according to the London Births & Baptisms Parish records was baptised on 25 Feb 1866 in West Hackney, Middlesex. According to the record, her parents were Thomas Willomatt Hunt and Eliza Hunt.
My problem is that I have 2 Thomas Hunt's - senior born abt 1806 in Stepney, Middlesex and son born abt 1827 in Datchett, Bucks and Amy could belong to either. They were both married more than once. Senior was married to Eliza Bennett and then appears to have remarried in 1871 to Martha (stating he was a widower on the certificate)n 1871, shortly before his death in 1872.
Thomas Willomatt Hunt Junior had a daughter called Martha which is confirmed in his brother George Willomatt Hunt's Will but I don't know the name of his wife.
Which one does Amy belong to?
Any help via a census search would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks Hilary
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24 Sep 2009 00:06 |
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Marriages Jun 1899 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hunt Amy Willamott Hackney 1b 954
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Vicci
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24 Sep 2009 00:07 |
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Amy's parent's
Thomas occupation cheesemonger address Hertford Road
are you able to match up with census???
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Battenburg
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24 Sep 2009 00:08 |
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The only way to be sure who her father is will be to get her birth cert
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Vicci
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24 Sep 2009 00:12 |
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MArtha baptised 25 Sept 1861 born 12 May 1861
father Thomas Grocer in Stratford
Martha Hunt Record Type: Baptism Date: 25 Sep 1861 Father's Name: Thomas Wilmott Hunt Mother's Name: Martha Hunt Parish: Saint Mary Stratford Bow Borough: Tower Hamlets County: Middlesex
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Hilary
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24 Sep 2009 00:14 |
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Thanks for your replies. Thomas Hunt senior was a cheesemonger but so was Thomas Hunt junior for a while although junior was a publican in Westminster when he died in Sept 1891 so the birth certificate will not help as the two names are the same.
I've tried to locate a census to verify who Amy lives with but am having trouble locating.
Thanks Hilary
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24 Sep 2009 00:20 |
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Incase these are related.
1911 census Elizabeth Willmott head single 52 Hackney occ boarding house keeper. Florence Edith Willmott sister single 48 Hackney occ clerk. Amy Willmott sister single 45 Hackney no occ. Elizabeth Willmott niece single 19 Lee Kent no occ. 4 boarders address 51Wray Crescent Tollington Park N
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Vicci
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24 Sep 2009 00:26 |
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1871
Thomas Hunt Age: 60 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1811 Relation: Head Spouse's Name: Martha Gender: Male Where born: Middlesex, England Civil parish: West Ham Ecclesiastical parish: St John Town: Stratford County/Island: Essex Country: England Registration district: West Ham Sub-registration district: Stratford ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Household schedule number: 14 Household Members: Name Age Thomas Hunt 60 retired merchant Martha Hunt 47 Maria Glenser 20 Samuel Glenser 20 Martha Hunt 11 daughter b. Stratford, Essex, England Emma Summers 22
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Vicci
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24 Sep 2009 00:32 |
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Amy actually born in 1859
Births Jun 1859 (>99%) HUNT Amy Willom_tt Hackney 1b 317
lving with grandmother in 1871
Name: Amy Hunt Age: 11 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860 Relation: Granddaughter Gender: Female Where born: Hackney, Middlesex, England Civil parish: Hackney St John Ecclesiastical parish: West Hackney Town: Kingsland County/Island: London Country: England Registration district: Hackney Sub-registration district: West Hackney ED, institution, or vessel: 16a Household schedule number: 45 Household Members: Name Age Mary Morris 70 Amy Hunt 11
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24 Sep 2009 00:36 |
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1861
Name: Amy W Hunt Age: 1 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1860 Relation: Daughter Mother's Name: Eliza Gender: Female Where born: Kingsland, Middlesex, England Civil parish: Hackney St John Ecclesiastical parish: West Hackney County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street Address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: Hackney Sub-registration district: West Hackney ED, institution, or vessel: 13 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 161 Household Members: Name Age Benjamine Show 30 Ellen Show 36 Sarah Ann Munday 48 Eliza Hunt 30 Lodger b. Harlow, Essex, England Thomas Wm Hunt 4 b. Kingsland, Middlesex, England Amy W Hunt 1
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Vicci
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24 Sep 2009 00:38 |
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Births Dec 1856 (>99%)
Hunt Thomas Willomatt W Ham 4a 5
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Hilary
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24 Sep 2009 00:47 |
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Thank you everyone for your help so far.
Vicci...... oh nooooo, not another Thomas Willomatt Hunt! Am wondering whether Amy and Thomas Willomatt Hunt Junior x 2 are the estranged children of Thomas Willomatt Hunt junior born 1827. He definately had a daughter called Martha too as she appears on his death certificate as the infomant and also in her Uncle George's Will as "Martha, my brother Thomas' daughter". The 1871 census is so confusing as it appears that there is another young Martha belonging to Thomas Hunt senior.
What a pickle!
Thanks again Hilary
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24 Sep 2009 00:54 |
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Marriages Sep 1871 (>99%)
Harvey Martha Pancras 1b 43 Scan available - click to view Hunt Thomas Willomatt Pancras 1b 43 Scan available - click to view
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24 Sep 2009 01:09 |
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Births Mar 1861 (>99%)
Births Sep 1861 (>99%) HUNT Martha Jane W Ham 4a 7 Scan available - click to view HUNT Martha Louise Islington 1b 180 Scan available - click to view
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Vicci
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24 Sep 2009 01:12 |
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Hilary
can you post the details of the 1827 Thomas
ie birth
census records etc
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Vicci
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24 Sep 2009 01:13 |
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also details of George , birth death etc
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Hilary
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24 Sep 2009 01:17 |
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Vicci - Thanks for supplying the 1871 marriage I mentioned earlier, for Thomas Hunt senior.
It appears that he probably lived with Martha Harvey for a long while and their daughter was born in 1861. He died in 1872, a year after the marriage so possibly knew that he was dying then, hence marrying Martha.
Thomas senior was previously married to Eliza Bennetts and I don't know when she died. I have a couple of possible dates for Amy's birth so guess that I need to purchase the birth certificates to establish which Eliza her mother actually was to narrow down whether her father was Thomas senior or Thomas junior.
A very grateful thanks for all your help. Time for bed!
Best wishes Hilary
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Hilary
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24 Sep 2009 01:23 |
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Vicci
Sorry, I was replying to your previous posting and didn't pick up your latest until now.
I don't know Thomas Willomatt Hunt junior's date of birth but it appears to be around 1827, according to 1851 census - shows family living at 142 Whitechapel Rd, Whitechapel, Tower Hamlets.
Thomas head of household aged 45 and a cheesemonger, Eliza Hunt his wife aged 45 of Datchett, Bucks, Thomas Hunt aged 24, born Datchett George Hunt aged 22, born Windsor and the following unrelated - Stephen Hermitag aged 21 (shopman), Robert Bicker aged 19 (porter), Richard Tappender aged 24 (Barman) and Mary Stelland aged 29, (House servant) who was born in Cork, Ireland
The death certificate I hold for Thomas junior states he died aged 65 in Sept 1891 in Westminster. George his brother died March 1889 aged 61 years according to his death certificate.
Will pick up any further queries tomorrow as I wont be able to get up for work ........(!)
Nite Hilary x
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Vicci
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24 Sep 2009 02:10 |
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another marriage for you to look at
Marriages Jun 1851 (>99%)
Hunt Thomas Willomath Rotherhithe 4 491 Scan available - click to view
Morris Eliza Rotherhithe 4 491 Scan available - click to view
this is on the basis that Amy was living with grandmother Mary Morris
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24 Sep 2009 02:17 |
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Name: Thomas Willmott Hunt - cheesemonger - bachelor Age: Full Age Estimated Birth Year: abt 1851 Spouse Name: Eliza Morris Record Type: Marriage Event Date: 20 Apr 1851 Parish: Christ Church, Rotherhithe County: Middlesex Borough: Southwark Father Name: Thomas Hunt - cheesemonger Spouse Father Name: Joseph Morris - yeoman
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