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Hi Sandra

I don't think your local library would be able to do this for you. Try giving Grimsby library a ring - they may be very helpful and have a quick peek for you.

If not, perhaps your family might pop in and have a look for you.

Looks like the death registration you found relates to the birth I found - same name - poor little thing.

Good luck.

Thank you Ninjalady for your help,do you think they would do it in my local library as we live 200 miles away from Grimsby,I am hoping to visit family in December who are 30 miles from Grimsby if my local library cannot help,I have found a death for a margaret Toyne 1938 aged 0 on freebmd. I see you have given me a phone number so i will try that tomorrow,regards Sandra

There is a birth registration for a female Toyne with the mothers maiden name of Kirkpatrick (not transcribed on Freebmd yet) born in Grimsby registration district in 1938.

You could check the electoral rolls to see if Arthur and Jessie were living in Grimsby in 1938. The local library should hold a copy - try this one.....

Grimsby Central Library
Town Hall Square, Town Hall Street, Town Centre, Grimsby DN31 1HG
01472 323 600

They may do look ups and may charge for that but you may need to go in person to look up the information if they hold it there.

Hope this helps.

I still have got no furthur as to where Jessie Kirkpatrick and Arthur Wainwright was Living after marrying in 1929. I have got in touch with 2 other trees ,but they to dont know where they where living after there marriage,and they also would like to find out more,can anyone please help us at all.regards Sandra.

Hi all,I have confirmation now that it is my dads sister jessie Kirkpatrick who married Arthur Toyne .Can anyone please find out where Jessie and Arthur lived after marrying in Grimsby 1929 ,I did hear they went to northamptonshire at some point but any addresses where Jessie or Arthur lived after 1929 either Grimsby or other parts of the uk would be a great help,so I can continue my search.regards sandra

Possibly the marriage registration for John Toyne??

Marriages Mar 1882 (>99%)
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Brewer Louisa Lincoln 7a 667
????EAST Ann Elizabeth Lincoln 7a 667
North William Lincoln 7a 667
????TOYNE John Lincoln 7a 667

Thank you Ninja lady and Christina for your help ,regards sandra

1901 England Census
about Arthur Wainwright Torn
Name: Arthur Wainwright Torn
Age: 16
Estimated birth year: abt 1885
Relation: Nephew
Gender: Male
Where born: Gainsborough, Lincolnshire, England

Civil parish: Great Grimsby
Ecclesiastical parish: St James
Town: Grimsby
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England

Street Address:..............16 Annesby Street

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Grimsby
Sub-registration district: Great Grimsby
ED, institution, or vessel: 24
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 4
Household Members: Name Age
William Tron 40...Head...Single....Maltster....Owston Ferry
Annie E Tron 37.....Sister....Widow.....Lincoln
Arthur Wainwright Torn 16.....Nephew....Labourer in Saw Mill
Lilly Torn 8....Daughter????......Grimsby

This may be him in 1891, but you will need to buy his birth cert to be sure...

1891 England Census
about Arthur W Tory............Toyn on image
Name: Arthur W Tory
Age: 6
Estimated birth year: abt 1885
Relation: Son
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Annie E
Gender: Male
Where born: Gainsborough, Lincolnshire, England

Civil parish: Gainsborough
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
Town: Gainsborough
County/Island: Lincolnshire
Country: England

Street Address:............5 Curtiss' Yard

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View image

Registration district: Gainsborough
Sub-registration district: Gainsborough
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Tory 28.........Iron Fettler.....Ferry West, Lincolnshire
Annie E Tory 27.........Lincoln
Arthur W Tory 6
John W Tory 3.........Ferry West

There is a tree on Ancestry that has this Arthur Wainwright Toyne married on 13th August 1905 at Grimsby Register Office to Sarah Cockerill. I'm assuming from this that they have the certificate.

In which case - they have listed his father as John Toyne. No mother listed.

Thank you potty I will look there now ,regards sandra

His birth is on freebmd, Gainsborough, Lincolnshire, June 1885.

We have a link now with Susans tree for Arthur wainwright Toyne born 1885 and his marriage to Sarah cotterill,neither us or susan have any info on his sibling,,parents or grandparents ,could you help us here please.thankyou regards sandra .

Thank you Ninjalady,I have all jessies parents and siblings side on my tree,it is the Toyne side that is hard to find,to see if any are related to us,I found a marriage on freebmd for Jessie kirkpatrick and Arthur Toyne in Grimsby 1929 which looks promisingg to us,but now I have some Toyne names from you I can find if any are Arthurs siblings,just got a message back from a julie Barker with a arthur wainwright, born 1885 but that is all the info she has on him,she would like more too and looks a promising match for her as well so i will pass your info on to her ,she as just opened her tree for me,just had a look and she has not gone back any further than this date,looks like arthur born 1908 is possibly her mothers brother,let you know how i get on ,regards sandra

Here is the full 1911 for Jessie B S Kirkpatrick - she was born in Aberdeen.

KIRKPATRICK, Margaret Wife Married
9 years F 32 1879 Buckie Scotland VIEW
KIRKPATRICK, Jessie B S Daughter F 9 1902 School Aberdeen Scotland VIEW
KIRKPATRICK, Thomas Son M 7 1904 School Aberdeen Scotland VIEW
KIRKPATRICK, John William Son M 6 1905 School Gt Grimsby Lincolnshire VIEW
KIRKPATRICK, Ellen Ann Daughter F 0 (11 MONTHS) 1911 Gt Grimsby Lincolnshire VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
19980 Reference:
RG14PN19980 RG78PN1197B RD422 SD1 ED30 SN170

Registration District:
Grimsby Sub District:
Great Grimsby Enumeration District:
30 Parish:
Clee

Address:
107 Grafton St Grimsby



You may need to check Scotland's People to find the marriage of Margaret ? to see if she married an Ebenezer Kirkpatrick - or ask nicely if anyone here might be able to look it up for you.

Thank you Ninjalady now I have some names,I will look on search trees to see if there is a link to the Arthur I am looking for,regards sandra

Possibly him with his family in 1911??

TOYNE, Arthur W Head Married F 26 1885 Dock Labourer Gainsboro VIEW
TOYNE, Sarah Ann Wife Married
5 years F 26 1885 Grimsby VIEW
TOYNE, Francis Daughter F 5 1906 Grimsby VIEW
TOYNE, Arthur W Son M 3 1908 Grimsby VIEW
TOYNE, Doris Daughter F 2 1909 Grimsby VIEW
TOYNE, George Son M 0 (11 MONTHS) 1911 Grimsby VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
19957 Reference:
RG14PN19957 RG78PN1197A RD422 SD1 ED11 SN478

Registration District:
Grimsby Sub District:
Great Grimsby Enumeration District:
11 Parish:
Great Grimsby

Address:
16 Annesley Street Grimsby County:
Lincolnshire

Birth registration for the father - Arthur W Toyne born 1885

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Arthur Wainwright Toyne
Name: Arthur Wainwright Toyne
Year of Registration: 1885
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
District: Gainsborough
County: Lincolnshire, Nottinghamshire
Volume: 7a
Page: 741

Marriage for Arthur and Sarah

Marriages Sep 1905 (>99%)
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BUTTERS Jessie Grimsby 7a 1389
>>>>>>Cockerill Sarah Ann L Grimsby 7a 1389
Mawer William Grimsby 7a 1389
>>>>>>TOYNE Arthur Wainwright Grimsby 7a 1389

Can anyone find out the parents or any relatives of Arthur toyne born grimsby 1907 for me please.regards sandra

Thank you chris ,yes i have a lot of info on siblings etc ,but just wondered where jessie ended up after her childhood,i was looking at posssible marraiges and found one for about 1927-9 t A Toyne with the same name,,if i buy credits and look up on the marraige certificate would it give details of who father was for that jessie,it might even be a completly different one,i know names of all the family tree ,just wondering where jessie ended up,regards sandra

Sandra

A search of the 1911 census shows a Jessie B.S Kirkpatrick b.1902 with who appears to be her mother and siblings living Grimsby... No Ebenezer though.
Mother shown as KIRKPATRICK MARGARET F 1879 32

http://fmpbsol.1911census.co.uk

The only way to confirm her father is to purchase the marriage or birth certificate or find a baptism record if she was baptised.

Chris