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Hi

I have just discovered that I have been given some wrong information on 3 x great grandfather James Trembath which has all but destroyed the rest of my tree.

James Trembath a Miner from Penzance (St Just) is shown as the father of Amelia Trembath on her marriage certificate in 1854. Born in either 1805/ 06, hHis wife's name is shown as Jane of the same age in 1841, 1851 and 1861 census before he dies in 1862. It appears that this Jane could either be Jane Thomas or even Jane Berriman but I can;t find any further information on Jane.

I was led to believe that James Trembath's father was another James born in Morvah 1770 and his mother was Mary Nankervis born 1770 in St Just in Penwith, Cornwall. However, it appears that this information may now be wrong and his father could be Ambrose Trembath born 1767 in St Just (his parents were Ambrose Trembath and possibly Jane Nankervis who married on 12 May 1768 in Cornwall) and his mother was Elizabeth Nickells born 1766.

Please could someone do a look up to establish who is the correct father or point me in the right direction. I am new to genealogy and have now spent days trying to establish this fact .

Thanks for any help that you can give me
Hilary

AMELIA WOOLCOCK TREMBATH Pedigree
Female


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 31 DEC 1840 Saint Just In Penwith, Cornwall, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: JAMES TREMBATH Family
Mother: JANE

when was amelia born please

Was she only 14 when she married?

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Mary NANKERVIS Pedigree
Female


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Event(s):
Birth: 17 JAN 1748 Saint Just In Penwith, Cornwall, England

Christening:
Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: Thomas NANKERWISE Family
Mother: Loveday Grenfield

MARY ANN NANKERVIS Pedigree
Female


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Event(s):
Birth:
Christening: 22 SEP 1816 Saint Just In Penwith, Cornwall, England

Death:
Burial:


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Parents:
Father: THOMAS NANKERVIS Family
Mother: MARY

which Ambrose?

2. AMBROSE TREMBATH - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 28 JUN 1765 Saint Just In Penwith, Cornwall, England

3. AMBROSE TREMBATH - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 20 OCT 1768 Saint Just In Penwith, Cornwall, England

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Husband's Name
Edmond TREMBATH (AFN:1K09-DCR) Pedigree

Born: 1748 Place:
Christened: 4 Mar 1748 Place: Morvah, , Cornwall, England
Married: 26 Dec 1773 Place: St. Just, In Penwith, Cornwall, England

Father: James TREMBATH (AFN:1K09-H68) Family
Mother: Katherine CURNOW (AFN:1K09-GP6)

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Wife's Name
Elizabeth JAMES (AFN:1K08-X8R) Pedigree

Born: Abt 1740 Place: , , Cornwall, England
Married: 26 Dec 1773 Place: St. Just, In Penwith, Cornwall, England

Father:
Mother:

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Children

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1. Sex Name
M Matthew TREMBATH (AFN:1K08-XDL) Pedigree

Born: 1784 Place:
Christened: 19 Dec 1784 Place: St. Just, In Penwith, Cornwall, England
Buried: 10 Jul 1836 Place: Morvah, , Cornwall, England

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2. Sex Name
M John TREMBATH (AFN:1K08-X90) Pedigree

Born: 1778 Place:
Christened: 23 Aug 1778 Place: St. Just, In Penwith, Cornwall, England

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3. Sex Name
M Edmond TREMBATH (AFN:1K08-XFS) Pedigree

Born: 1780 Place:
Christened: 13 Aug 1780 Place: St. Just, In Penwith, Cornwall, England

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4. Sex Name
M James TREMBATH (AFN:1K08-XCD) Pedigree

Born: 1783 Place:
Christened: 23 Jan 1783 Place: St. Just, In Penwith, Cornwall, England

These are the marriages for James Trembath. His first child, Jane, was born around 1830 according to the 1841. Jane was also from St Just so I would imagine they married there. Of course, none of this is for certain.


17-Nov 1827 Just in Penwith, St. James TREMBATH Jane THOMAS / More info
03-Jan 1829 Just in Penwith, St. James TREMBATH Jane THOMAS Witnesses Edward Williams / William Davey More info
03-Jul 1842 Breage James TREMBATH, mason of Penhale, son of John, miner Jane BERRIMAN of Trequean, daughter of Joseph, a labourer, Witnesses George Hebbard Jr / George Hebbard Eldr

Just for ref.


1851 England Census
about Jane Trembath
Name: Jane Trembath
Age: 45
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1806
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: James
Gender: Female
Where born: St Just, Cornwall, England

Civil Parish: St Just in Penwith
County/Island: Cornwall
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: Penzance
Sub-registration district: St Just
ED, institution, or vessel: 3g
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 77
Household Members:
Name Age
James Trembath 45
Jane Trembath 45
Margt Trembath 14
Edward Trembath 13
Amelia Trembath 10
Grace Trembath 7
James Trembath 5
Tomasine Trembath 6 Mo

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This is possibly the one who married Jane Berriman.




1851 England Census
about Jane Trembath
Name: Jane Trembath
Age: 36
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1815
Relation: Wife
Spouse's name: James
Gender: Female
Where born: Breage, Cornwall, England

Civil Parish: Breage
Ecclesiastical parish: Godolphin
County/Island: Cornwall
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: Helston
Sub-registration district: St Keverne
ED, institution, or vessel: 1d
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 6
Household Members:
Name Age
James Trembath 32 b Breage
Jane Trembath 36
Jane Trembath 8
John Trembath 3

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Hi

Amelia Trembath was shown as aged 20 when she married in 1859 but I believe this was a few days before she was 21 so that would put her date of birth around Dec 1838 (I think that her christening 2 years later which is shown above is correct ).

The information given by Ann on Mary Nankervis is also correct ( i have have information on that line right back to 1068) BUT James Trembath senior and Mary Nankervis are not the parents of the James born 1805/6 that I am looking for.

Minnie ...... I thoink that my Ambrose could have been born in 1767 so number 3 might be the right one. Do you have any further information on him?

Thank you all for trying to help, I am really stumped and gutted to have spent so long building my tree to have to scrap most of it. I still don't know who Jane Nankervis is either!

Hilary x

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Husband
Ambrose Trembath Pedigree


Birth:
Christening: 20 OCT 1767 Just-In-Penwith, , Cornwall, England
Marriage: 24 JUL 1790 Just-In-Penwith, , Cornwall, England
Death:
Burial:



Father: Ambrose Trembath Family
Mother: Jane Nakervis


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Wife
Elizabeth Nichlas Pedigree


Birth: About 1769 Just-In-Penwith, , Cornwall, England
Christening:
Marriage: 24 JUL 1790 Just-In-Penwith, , Cornwall, England
Death:
Burial:





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Children

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1. Ambrose Trembath Pedigree
Male

Birth:
Christening: 01 JAN 1792 Just-In-Penwith, , Cornwall, England
Death:
Burial:



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2. William Trembath Pedigree
Male

Birth:
Christening: 07 JAN 1793 Just-In-Penwith, , Cornwall, England
Death:
Burial:



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3. Elizabeth Trembath Pedigree
Female

Birth:
Christening: 05 MAY 1795 Just-In-Penwith, , Cornwall, England
Death:
Burial:



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4. Ambrose Trembath Pedigree
Male

Birth:
Christening: 23 NOV 1797 Just-In-Penwith, , Cornwall, England
Death:
Burial:



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5. John Trembath Pedigree
Male

Birth:
Christening: 02 NOV 1800 Just-In-Penwith, , Cornwall, England
Death:
Burial:



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6. Samuel Trembath Pedigree
Male

Birth:
Christening: 26 DEC 1803 Just-In-Penwith, , Cornwall, England
Death:
Burial:



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7. James Trembath Pedigree
Male

Birth:
Christening: 14 APR 1805 Just-In-Penwith, , Cornwall, England
Death:
Burial:

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Husband
Henry Nankervis Pedigree


Birth: About 1680 Pos, , , England
Christening:
Marriage: 26 NOV 1709 Saint Just In Penwith, Cornwall, England
Death:
Burial:





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Wife
Margaret Cock Pedigree


Birth: 28 JUN 1682 Saint Just In Penwith, Cornwall, England
Christening:
Marriage: 26 NOV 1709 Saint Just In Penwith, Cornwall, England
Death:
Burial:





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Children

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1. Thomas Nankervis Pedigree
Male

Birth: 23 SEP 1710 Saint Just In Penwith, Cornwall, England
Christening:
Death:
Burial:



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2. Elizabeth Nankervis Pedigree
Female

Birth: 31 DEC 1712 Saint Just In Penwith, Cornwall, England
Christening:
Death: 24 JUN 1715
Burial:



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3. Jane Nankervis Pedigree
Female

Birth: 30 APR 1715 Saint Just In Penwith, Cornwall, England
Christening:
Death: 06 JUN 1718
Burial:



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4. Henry Nankervis Pedigree
Male

Birth: 15 JAN 1717 Saint Just In Penwith, Cornwall, England
Christening:
Death:
Burial:



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5. Elizabeth Nankervis Pedigree
Female

Birth: 04 APR 1721 Saint Just In Penwith, Cornwall, England
Christening:
Death:
Burial:



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6. John Nankervis Pedigree
Male

Birth: 14 JAN 1723 Saint Just In Penwith, Cornwall, England
Christening:
Death:
Burial:



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7. Joan Nankervis Pedigree
Female

Birth: 17 SEP 1726 Saint Just In Penwith, Cornwall, England
Christening:
Death: 13 MAR 1750
Burial:

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Husband
AMBROSE TREMBATH Pedigree


Birth:
Christening:
Marriage: 12 MAY 1768 Saint Just In Penwith, Cornwall, England
Death:
Burial:





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Wife
JANE NANKERVIS Pedigree


Birth:
Christening:
Marriage: 12 MAY 1768 Saint Just In Penwith, Cornwall, England
Death:
Burial:

Thank you Alviegal

The census information that you have copied is definately the correct family as I already have it. It appears from the marriages that you have provided that Jane Berriman could be excluded as being the mother of Amelia on the basis that she married her James after my 2x great grandmother Amelia was born in 1838. Amelia's mother Jane continued to be shown on the census between 1841 to 1871/81. but this could now be either Jane. I guess that Jane Thomas could have died before 1842?

Thanks for trying to help
Hilary x

The marriages in 1827 and 1829 appear to be a bit strange. First born Jane Trembath was born on 10 May 1829 and the last child was Thomasine born in 1850 so this could well suggest different mothers called Jane .............. aaaaaargh!

Anne, thank you so much for trying to help.

My previous research took me across the path of Henry Nankervis and Margaret Cock and if there is a connection here, I am hoping that I can now salvage a good deal of my previous tree records. However, I can't see from the information provided how Henry and Margaret tie in now. Their daughter Jane died in June 1718 according to your post below. Am I missing something please? I have all my fingers and toes crossed!

Thank you
Hilary x

This is Thomasine's birth. Note the middle name.

Parish:Just in Penwith, St.
Date:30-Sep 1850

Name:Thomasine Thomas TREMBATH
Sex:
Parents:James Jane
Residence:Bosavern
Father's rank/profession:miner


Liz

These are all born to James and Jane from Bosavern.

10-May 1829 Just in Penwith, St. Jane TREMBATH More info
29-Jan 1832 Just in Penwith, St. Elizabeth TREMBATH More info
14-Sep 1833 Just in Penwith, St. James TREMBATH More info
09-Nov 1834 Just in Penwith, St. Mary Ann Thomas TREMBATH More info
04-Nov 1838 Just in Penwith, St. Edward William TREMBATH More info
31-Dec 1840 Just in Penwith, St. Amelia Woolcock TREMBATH More info
04-Jun 1843 Just in Penwith, St. Grace TREMBATH More info
02-Nov 1845 Just in Penwith, St. James TREMBATH More info
30-Sep 1850 Just in Penwith, St. William TREMBATH 3 years old when baptised
30-Sep 1850 Just in Penwith, St. Thomasine Thomas TREMBATH

Thank you Alviegal

I hadn't noticed Thomasine's middle name before which is interesting . My Amelia's middle name (born in 1838) was Woolcock ........... not sure how that one fits in

Fingers still crossed that Anne of green gables can provide more information of the suggested link between Henry Nankervis and Margaret Cock with a phantom Jane Nankervis .........!

Hilary x

Have you tried the OPCs for the area? And a tip about Cornish census - it is all free online.

Appears that James' age was given as 57 on death

Just in Penwith, St.
30-Nov 1862

James TREMBATH
57 yrs
Bosavern