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Born 1889 in Hammersmith. He was a professional artist and painted the Crown Jewels. It must have happened between 1925 and 1935. He left a wife whose name I wish to find , and two children; a boy and a girl. He was a Lewis Gunner during the first world war and was taken prisoner. His father was John Stanley and he died through being bitten by a horse. His mother's maiden name was Sarah Rickard from Bucks.

When did he marry?

"His father was John Stanley",

so is Stanley his surname, if not then what was it?

For reference:


1891 England Census
about Bertie Stanley
Name: Bertie Stanley
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888
Relation: Son
Father's Name: James
Mother's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Hammersmith, London, England

Civil Parish: Hammersmith
Ecclesiastical parish: St Simon
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Fulham
Sub-registration district: St Paul Hammersmith
ED, institution, or vessel: 28
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
James Stanley 42
Sarah Stanley 38
Ada Stanley 18
James Stanley 16
Sarah Stanley 14
William Stanley 12
Rose Stanley 10
Estus Stanley 8
Thomas Stanley 4
Bertie Stanley 3
John N Stanley 2/12

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page

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Marriages Jun 1873 (>99%)
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Foster Elizabeth Aylesbury 3a 756
Newton Charles James Aylesbury 3a 756
>>>RICKARD Sarah Aylesbury 3a 756
>>>STANLEY James Aylesbury 3a 756

I saw those too, but Victor gives name of father as John ?

1901
Name: Bertie Stanley
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889
Relation: Son
Father's Name: James H
Mother's Name: Sarah A
Gender: Male
Where born: Chiswick, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: Fulham
Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address:

Fathers Occupation: Horsekeeper Groom

Registration district: Fulham
Sub-registration district: North East Fulham
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 315
Household Members:
Name Age
James H Stanley 52 born: Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire
Sarah A Stanley 47 born: Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire
James H Stanley 27
William E Stanley 22
Esther E Stanley 16
Thomas Stanley 15
Bertie Stanley 12
John Stanley 10
Flora Stanley 7

pm from Victor to say that this is the correct family!!

Is this a possible birth ?

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Arthur Bertie Stanley
Name: Arthur Bertie Stanley
Year of Registration: 1888
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Brentford
County: Middlesex
Volume: 3a
Page: 113

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Surname: stanley First name(s): bertie
Start date: Mar 1888 End date: Dec 1890

Births Sep 1889 (>99%)
Stanley Bertie Charles Shoreditch 1c 128

Births Mar 1890 (>99%)
Stanley Bertie Gordon Fulham 1a 2_5
"Fulham is the registration district for Hammersmith"

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Possible marriage ?

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Marriages Sep 1911 (>99%)
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BISCHLAGER Elizabeth J Pancras 1b 160
Harberd Edmund R Pancras 1b 160
Robertson Christina L Pancras 1b 160
STANLEY Bertie Pancras 1b 160

If that birth is right, this marriage is a possible:


England & Wales, FreeBMD Marriage Index: 1837-1983
about Arthur B Stanley
Name: Arthur B Stanley
Year of Registration: 1925
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Spouse's name: Dorothy Cook
District: Fulham
County: Greater London, London, Middlesex
Volume: 1a
Page: 537

His death?

Deaths Dec 1929 (89%)
Stanley Bertie 42 Wolverhampton 6b 579

if this is his death the cert. will give the name of the person who registered the death, possibly his wife.

England & Wales, Birth Index: 1916-2005
about Betty D M M Stanley
Name: Betty D M M Stanley
Mother's Maiden Surname: Cook
Date of Registration: Apr May Jun 1925
Registration district: Fulham
Registration county: Greater London
Volume Number: 1a
Page Number: 465


England & Wales, Birth Index: 1916-2005
about Ronald A J J Stanley
Name: Ronald A J J Stanley
Mother's Maiden Surname: Cook
Date of Registration: Apr May Jun 1927
Registration district: Fulham
Registration county: Greater London
Volume Number: 1a
Page Number: 433

No births showed for Stanley - Bischlager

but these showed for Stanley - Robertson so possibly the two children mentioned...........;

Births Sep 1914 (>99%)
Stanley Iris M (Robertson) W.Ham 4a 724

Births Sep 1919 (>99%)
Stanley Alan A (Robertson) W. Ham 4a 590

there were also these two but not same area so probably another couple................!
Births Sep 1922 (>99%)
Stanley Harold K Robertson Cardiff 11a 837
Births Jun 1931 (99%)
Stanley Alan C Robertson Swindon 5a 66

Victor, do you have any idea of the name of the children ?

1911 possible

HOUSEHOLD STANLEY ARTHUR BERT M 1889 22 Fulham London

Last names STANLEY
County: London
Residence: FULHAM:
Born: Chiswick
Other person first names Arthur Bert

living in same house
HOUSEHOLD STANLEY FLORENCE MAY F 1894 17 Fulham London
HOUSEHOLD STANLEY JAMES M 1873 38 Fulham London
HOUSEHOLD STANLEY SARAH F 1844 67 Fulham London................this Sarah was born in Aylesbury!!!

so Arthur Bertie is looking more likely!

Pm received:

I have Bertie born 1889. Born Hammersmith
I am very surprised at the response to my community message. Who said people don't help!!
Thanks a lot.
Kind ragards,
From Victor


I have requested Victor help us out with more information regarding the children (if he knows names)

pms from Victor:-

Stanley was his surname. Kind regards

Sorry Catherine, my mistake...I must be getting old! It was James Stanley to whom I referred.

Your info is spot on. I wonder who his wife was and the two children.
Kind regards,

I forgot to tell you. Flora was my Mother.

I have been told in a message, that Bertie was born in Chiswick. I'm not sure yet. Kind regards,

From info received the names are:
Betty D M M Stanley and Ronald A J J Stanley. Thank you so much.

Yes, it certainly is looking correct. My Mother was called Florence then but, at aother times, she is Flora. I think you are correct. Did you get the address? Was it Dimsdale Road, Fulham?

My middle name is Arthur. I was possibly named after him. He was such a nice chap. I must have been about three when I knew him.

You should purchase this marriage certificate:

Name: Arthur B Stanley
Year of Registration: 1925
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Spouse's name: Dorothy Cook
District: Fulham
County: Greater London, London, Middlesex
Volume: 1a
Page: 537


It will name both fathers and give an age for Dorothy so helping you to trace Dorothy Cook back further.

PM received:

I think they were called Betty M M Stanley and Ronald A J J Stanley.
I am delighted with your info. Thank you. Kind regards.