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Deb needs a change

Deb needs a change Report 29 Jan 2009 00:27

I've been helping a fellow researcher trace her g/grandmother, Charlotte Maria Doncaster. She was born Maria Doncaster in Kensington 1879 and married as Charlotte Doncaster in 1902. We've found her in 1881 with her family and orphaned in 1891 but no sign of her in 1901.

She must be badly mistranscribed. Could someone do a blanket search for her please?



Deb:)

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 29 Jan 2009 01:01

Hi Debs

Was there a occupation listed for her on the marriage cert?Also she may have been taken in by a family and given their name on the census records?Who were the witnesses?

Michelle

Deb needs a change

Deb needs a change Report 29 Jan 2009 01:09

Hi Michelle,

The only witness that I know of was a W.H. Doncaster, presumably Maria's brother. The lady that I'm helping has the birth and marriage certs.

I've noticed a C. Maria Anger c1882 showing up but don't have a subscription anymore. Other than that, I can't see anyone who fits. We already know that Alina Doncaster (mistranscribed) is actually Alma Doncaster, a seperate lady.




Deb:)

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 29 Jan 2009 01:21

This is the C M Anger you mentioned

1901 England Census
about C Maria Anger
Name: C Maria Anger
Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John C
Gender: Female
Where born: Kensington

Civil Parish: Clapham
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Wandsworth
Sub registration district: Clapham
ED, institution, or vessel: 22
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 252
Household Members: Name Age
John C Anger 63
C Maria Anger 19
Hilda M Anger 16
Jublice Victer Anger 13
Maud Anger 12
Dorothy Anger 11
Daisey Anger 11


The father of this lady

1901 England Census
about John C Anger
Name: John C Anger
Age: 63
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Germany

Civil Parish: Clapham
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Wandsworth
Sub registration district: Clapham
ED, institution, or vessel: 22
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 252
Household Members: Name Age
John C Anger 63
C Maria Anger 19
Hilda M Anger 16
Jublice Victer Anger 13
Maud Anger 12
Dorothy Anger 11
Daisey Anger 11

Interesting that the 1891 there does not seem to be a C M Anger???

1891 England Census
about John Chas Fred Anger
Name: John Chas Fred Anger
Age: 53
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Maria Ashburner
Gender: Male
Where born: Werden Rhine, Germany

Civil Parish: Hampstead
Ecclesiastical parish: St Saviour
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Hampstead
Sub registration district: Hampstead
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Chas Fred Anger 53
Maria Ashburner Anger 33
Frederick Anger 18
Edward Anger 14
Gurdon Anger 12
Hilda Anger 6
William Anger 5
Victoria Anger 3
Maud Anger 2
Emily Anger 1
Annice Anger 1
Annie Coates 35
Emily Perkins 21
Maria Eastlaugh 75

She maybe elsewhere??Or maybe the 1901 is your C M Doncaster taken in by this family?On the 1891 he is listed as a Wholesale Stationer





***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 29 Jan 2009 01:28

However this could be her the missing C Maria on the 1891 visiting and birthyear a little out??

1891 England Census
about Maria Anger
Name: Maria Anger
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884
Relation: Visitor
Gender: Female
Where born: Kensington, London, England

Civil Parish: Hornsey
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch
Town: Hornsey
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Edmonton
Sub registration district: Hornsey
ED, institution, or vessel: 16
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Frany L Steel 41
Jemima Steel 43
Albert G Steel 11
Alice M Steel 9
Edgcumbe L Steel 8
Margaret Anger 21
Rosalie Anger 9
Maria Anger 7
Harriet M Brown 17
Sydney J Murray 29
Arthur E Murray 26


Deb needs a change

Deb needs a change Report 29 Jan 2009 01:28

Hi Michelle,

That looks very good!

Everything fits for her being Charlotte Maria. And also the fact that she isn't with them in 1891 makes it very promising. She was orphaned a few months before the 1891 census and was enrolled in a school at the time.

Can you do a quick check of the 1891 just to eliminate the possibility of a C. Maria Anger being elsewhere?




Deb:)


Edit: Oh, blast. I've just seen your posting for 1891.

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 29 Jan 2009 01:37

Sorry Debs looks like you can count her out.Just found her birth

England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915
about Cooer Maria B Anger
Name: Cooer Maria B Anger
Year of Registration: 1883
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
District: Kensington
County: Greater London, London, Middlesex
Volume: 1a
Page: 154 (click to see others on page)

Deb needs a change

Deb needs a change Report 29 Jan 2009 01:39

The others coming up on blanket search are:

Charlotte Mead c1880

Charlotte M Aylward c1879

Charlotte M Bishop (living in Cheshire)


The problem with not having a subscription anymore is that the vital info is blanked out and I can't see birth place of these ladies.




Deb:)

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 29 Jan 2009 01:52

Mead is married

1901 England Census
about Charlotte Mead
Name: Charlotte Mead
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: James
Gender: Female
Where born: Kensington

Civil Parish: Kensington
Ecclesiastical parish: St Clement
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Kensington
Sub registration district: Kensington Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 39
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 274
Household Members: Name Age
James Mead 23
Charlotte Mead 21
Roseina Mead 13
James Mead 1


1901 England Census
about Charlotte M Aylward
Name: Charlotte M Aylward
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Abraham
Gender: Female
Where born: Edmonton, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: Tottenham
Ecclesiastical parish: All Hallows
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Edmonton
Sub registration district: Tottenham
ED, institution, or vessel: 2
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 161
Household Members: Name Age
Abraham Aylward 65
Arthur J Aylward 25
Charlotte M Aylward 22
Henry A Aylward 20

1901 England Census
about Charlotte M Bishop
Name: Charlotte M Bishop
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Francis
Mother's Name: Charlotte A E
Gender: Female
Where born: Hacking, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: Sale
Ecclesiastical parish: Sale St Anne
County/Island: Cheshire
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Bucklow
Sub registration district: Altrincham
ED, institution, or vessel: 40
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 137
Household Members: Name Age
Francis Bishop 49
Charlotte A E Bishop 43
Charlotte M Bishop 22
Francis W Bishop 20
Annie L Bishop 18
Alice D Bishop 17
Sidney M Bishop 15
Harold C M Bishop 14
Gilbert Bishop 10
Gladys S Bishop 7

Will keep looking












Deb needs a change

Deb needs a change Report 29 Jan 2009 01:57

Thanks Michelle,

You're a star for doing this. It would be lovely to find Maria during this lost decade. Dee has everything else for Maria but is missing the 1901 entry for her g/gran.

Like you, I strongly suspect she was taken in by a family and fostered. If it's true, then it's information that Dee would love to confirm.



Deb:)

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 29 Jan 2009 02:03

Was there any siblings?have you followed them through the census records?I did notice an H M Doncaster on the census records although she may have poss married in 1900-wondered if she maybe a connection to the witness?Or was there a brother with the initials H.M?

1881 England Census
about Hannah M. Doncaster
Name: Hannah M. Doncaster
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Ebenezer
Mother's Name: Mary E.
Gender: Female
Where born: Kensington

Civil Parish: Kensington
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address: 10 Charles St
Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Kensington
Sub registration district: Kensington Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Ebenezer Doncaster 28
Mary E. Doncaster 27
Hannah M. Doncaster 3
Ellen M. Rush 15

Would be great to find her wouldn't it.Must be so frustrating.

Michelle : )


***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 29 Jan 2009 02:09

Was their an address on the marriage cert of 1902 St Marylebone marriage for CM Doncaster?

Deb needs a change

Deb needs a change Report 29 Jan 2009 02:14

Hi Michelle,

Here's the family in 1881 as a guide. As you can see, Maria was incorrectly recorded as Eliza (or it was a pet name). Either way, we know for certain that it's Maria. The address and occupation of father match exactly for birth cert and census info, plus Charlotte Maria's marriage cert states father's details the same plus deceased in 1902. There were no Eliza/Elizabeths on freebmd for 1878-1881.


Name: Eliza Doncaster
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Henry
Mother's Name: Susan
Gender: Female
Where born: Kensington, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: Kensington
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address: 16 Hayden Mews
Education:

Employment status:

Registration district: Kensington
Sub registration district: Kensington Town
ED, institution, or vessel: 39c
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Henry Doncaster 40 occupation painter's labourer
Susan Doncaster 40
Rosana Doncaster 17
Edith Doncaster 16
Fanny Doncaster 10
Ellen Doncaster 7
William Doncaster 6
Sarah Doncaster 4
Eliza Doncaster 1 <<<<<<<<




Deb:)

Deb needs a change

Deb needs a change Report 29 Jan 2009 02:30

Hi Michelle,

I'll get on to Dee asap about CM's address in 1902. It's possible to do an address search. She may have been there in 1901. Dee's probably sleeping right now but I'll leave her a message.

All the siblings marriages show on freebmd. It's interesting but probably trivial that the eldest sisters married brothers Curd. Funny, the little things we spot.......................lol




Deb:)

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 29 Jan 2009 02:30

Thanks for posting that Debs was wondering why she no show in the other 2 names!Thought i was just tired!!

Michelle

***Michelle***

***Michelle*** Report 29 Jan 2009 02:39

Debs

I am in England and really tired its 2.38am.Post the info on here when you get it re address and also if an occupation was listed for her on the 1901.Sorry i haven't been able to see her and hope someone over night gets better luck.Another thought as she was orphaned so young...she may well not know where she was born.So she may not even be under Middlesex?

Great working with you though!!Good luck.

Michelle : )

Deb needs a change

Deb needs a change Report 29 Jan 2009 02:43

Thanks for all your help Michelle. Sleep tight. I've left Dee a message so I'll close too and wait for her to reply.



Deb:)

Deb needs a change

Deb needs a change Report 29 Jan 2009 11:54

I've got some more info from Dee.

Charlotte Maria was living at 7 Little Church Street, Marylebone in Dec 1902. It's the same address on her childrens birth certs for years after. They must have moved from there by 1911 but were back in Little Church St by 1918 when another daughter was born.

What's interesting is that Charlotte Maria and her husband Walter Jarrett had their first child in June 1901, before they married and Walter's missing from the 1901 census as well.

Family gossip is that Charlotte Maria worked in the Royal Household.

Could someone do an address search of the 1901 for CM's address?



Deb:)

Deb needs a change

Deb needs a change Report 29 Jan 2009 12:10

I'm posting Charlotte and her family in 1911 as a reference. It may help in some way:


31 LITTLE CARLISLE ST ST MARYLEBONE W

JARRETT CHARLES EDGAR M 1905 6 St Marylebone London
JARRETT CHARLOTTE F 1879 32 St Marylebone London
JARRETT ERNEST FREDERICK M 1910 11 MONTHS St Marylebone London
JARRETT FRANCIS ROSE F 1902 9 St Marylebone London
JARRETT GEORGE HAROLD M 1908 3 St Marylebone London
JARRETT HARRY M 1907 4 St Marylebone London
JARRETT WALTER M 1877 34 St Marylebone London
JARRETT WILLIAM WALTER M 1903 8 St Marylebone London





Deb:)

BatMansDaughter

BatMansDaughter Report 29 Jan 2009 12:53

Hi Deb,

This is the family at 7 Little Church Street in 1901;

1901 England Census
about Joseph Woolmore
Name: Joseph Woolmore
Age: 7
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1894
Relation: Son
Father's Name: Joseph
Mother's Name: John R
Gender: Male
Where born: Marylebone, London, England

Civil Parish: St Marylebone
Ecclesiastical parish: St Matthew
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: St Marylebone
Sub registration district: Christchurch
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 257
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Woolmore 30
John R Woolmore 28 (Image states Eliza!!!)
Joseph Woolmore 7
Eliza Woolmore 2
Sarah Ansell 38

I've looked at the original image, unfortunately I couldn't see CM.

Dee x