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Hi guys,
I've posted about my great grandmother before but I have only just found her birth. Until this afternoon, we all knew her as Grace Gertrude Marsh (born 21st March 1904 in Liverpool) and on her marriage certificate to Charles Pike (born 1898) in 1926 it states she was Grace Gertrude Marsh, aged 21 and a spinster living at 34 Rosalind Street. Her father is listed as George Henry Marsh - a timekeeper (deceased). I have been searching for my great grandmother's birth so I could order the certificate for months but could not for the life of me find it.

Then today I had the bright idea to just search for children born Grace Gertrude in the Liverpool area in 1904 and hey presto, it came up with a Grace Gertrude Barrett registered Q2 1904 in the Toxteth Park district. I then searched for a marriage between barrett and marsh and bingo, Sarah E Barrett married George Henry Marsh in West Derby in 1913. So none of us knew my great grandmother was actually born a barrett and presumably took on her step-father's name after her mother married (not even her own children, my nan was shocked when we told her).

I have ordered the birth certificate but I was just wondering if anyone could help me find out anything about Sarah or George since I cant seem to find anything. Of course, my next step is to buy the marriage cert but I've spent a lot on certs recently and need to slow down on my spending a little. Hopefully one of you whizzes will be able to help me along somehow, anything would be fantastic since this branch of my family has been at a standstill since I started researching for my family tree.

Thank you in advance for anything you may help me find.
Jen xx

This will give you a problem! (If it's the right chap) You won't know until you get the marriage cert, and find out the age..............

George H Marsh 47 Western Australia Lancaster Waterloo Engineers Timekeeper


Name: George H Marsh
Age: 47
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Eliza
Gender: Male
Where born: Western, Australia

Civil Parish: Waterloo
Ecclesiastical parish: Waterloo St John
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Registration district: West Derby
Sub registration district: Crosby
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 80
Household Members: Name Age
George H Marsh 47
Eliza Marsh 48 b. Ireland
Mary C Quirk 20 Boarder

Address: 23, St John's Road

Hi Eric,
thanks for that. Where did you find it?
Jen

Found the initial info on the 1901censusonline site.....you can search on there by occupation..................

It appears that I'm going to have a lot of trouble tracing this line of my family then!!

1891

Name: George Henry Marsh
Age: 37
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Eliza
Gender: Male
Where born: Weston, Australia

Civil Parish: Liverpool
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
Town: Liverpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England

Registration district: Liverpool
Sub registration district: St Martin
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
George Henry Marsh 37
Eliza Marsh 38
Edith Evelyn Marsh 9 b. Liverpool

He's on 1881....plus in-laws. I'll let you look for that one................

I would doubt that he was Grace's bio father............unless he was unable to marry her mother because Eliza was still alive............

1911 census will be vital for you................

Thanks very much. Yeh I'm getting impatient waiting for the 1911 census now. Knowing my luck it'll be December before they release it.

It doesnt look like it took George very long to get over Eliza's death!!!

Deaths Jun 1913 (>99%)
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Marsh Eliza 60 W.Derby 8b 286


Marriages Jun 1913 (>99%)
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Marsh George H Barrett W. Derby 8b 671

Probably George's death....ties in with his being 'deceased' when Grace married

Deaths Mar 1925 (95%)
Marsh George H 70 W.Derby 8b 608

this is looking more and more likely by the second. As soon as I get paid i'll send for the marriage cert which should prove it.

Eric, I'd like to say a huge thank you to you. The George Henry Marsh you found is in fact the correct one. I now cant wait to see if my great grandmother's birth cert has the name of her biological father on it. Fingers crossed. Thank you again

Glad to have helped..........I enjoy puzzles!

OK, I've had contact from another GR member and it would appear that George Henry Studsor Marsh (1854 Western Australia) was the biological father of Grace Gertrude Barrett (1904 Liverpool).

George was married to Eliza Wells at the time and they employed Sarah E Barrett as a servant at some point. George then had an affair with Sarah and they had Grace, George (1910) and Mary (unsure of birthdate). Straight after Eliza died, George and Sarah married in 1913 in Liverpool.

If anyone could help me with an Australian lookup i'd be very grateful as I have no idea where to start. George's parents were Maria Studsor and either John or Frederick Marsh. I've seen 2 different trees and they have different fathers on them.

Any help would be gratefully received.
Thanks
Jen

Individual Record FamilySearch™ Pedigree Resource File

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George Henry Studzson Marsh Compact Disc #141 Pin #3128668 Pedigree
Sex: M
Event(s)
Birth: 1854
Bungarra,Western Australia
Parents
Father: Frederick George Marsh Disc #141 Pin #3128663
Mother: Susannah Maria Studzsor Disc #141 Pin #3128667
Notes and Sources
Notes: None
Sources: None
Submitter
Lynda WATSON
26 Patterson Street Malak

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Frederick George Marsh Compact Disc #141 Pin #3128663 Pedigree
Sex: M
Event(s)
Birth: 1839
uk
Parents
Father: John Marsh Disc #141 Pin #3128569
Mother: Hannah WELLMAN Disc #141 Pin #3128570
Marriage(s)
Spouse: Susannah Maria Studzsor Disc #141 Pin #3128667
Marriage: 1854
WEXCOMBE

Hi, there is this on the WA bmd site. You can order the cert through them:

MARSH GEORGE HENRY STUDZSOR Father :FREDERICK GEORGE Mother; STUDZSOR MARIA SUSANNAH Place: BUNGARRA 2425 1854

Regards Linda

A possible:


1841 England Census
about Frederick Marsh
Name: Frederick Marsh
Age: 3
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838
Gender: Male
Where born: Dorset, England

Civil Parish: Morden
Hundred: Loosebarrow
County/Island: Dorset
Country: England

Registration district: Wareham and Purbeck
Sub registration district: Bere Regis
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
John Marsh 38
Hannah Marsh 37
John Marsh 15
George Marsh 13
Rebecca Marsh 12
Cornealious Marsh 10
Sarah Marsh 8
Frederick Marsh 3
Elizabeth Marsh 1

thank you, thank you thank you!! finally i'm getting somwhere with this line!

The marriage is available in WA also:

MARSH, FREDERICK GEORGE Male
STUDZOR MARIA SUSANNAH Female
District: WEXCOMBE
Reg No. 635
Year: 1854