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Pauline

Pauline Report 6 Nov 2008 11:35

Hi, I am trying to find out about my gg grandmother. I have found out she was in the work house in Lambeth London prior to working for John Day as his house keeper. They married in Lambeth in 1865. They had 4 children together and John Days oldest child was 22 in 1881 census. Can anyone help me trace her there?
Regards
Pauline

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 6 Nov 2008 11:37

Marriages Sep 1865 (>99%)
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Bateley Ellen Lambeth 1d 620
Cox Edward Lambeth 1d 620
Day John Lambeth 1d 620
Hawkings George Lambeth 1d 620
Palmer Sarah Ann Lambeth 1d 620




Have you got the marriage cert for name and occupation of her father


When and where was she born?

Samspade

Samspade Report 6 Nov 2008 11:39

Could this be her?

1841 England Census

Name: Ellen Batley
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1840
Gender: Female
Where born: Surrey, England

Civil Parish: Lambeth
Hundred: Brixton (Eastern Division)
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation: View Image

Registration district: Lambeth
Sub registration district: Lambeth Church Second
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Batley 40
Jane Batley 40
James Batley 5
Ellen Batley 1
Mary Batley 13


Samspade

Samspade Report 6 Nov 2008 11:42

just for ref
1881 England Census
about Ellen Day
Name: Ellen Day
Age: 40
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relation: Wife
Spouse's Name: John
Gender: Female
Where born: Lambeth, Surrey, England

Civil Parish: Lambeth
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address: 12 and 13 Francis Court
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:

Employment status: View Image

Registration district: Lambeth
Sub registration district: Lambeth Church Second
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Ellen Day 40
Ellen Day 1
Frederick Day 3
John Day 48
John Day 22
Mary Day 8
Robert Day 7


GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 6 Nov 2008 11:47

1861 just for info

Name: Ellen Bakley
Age: 20
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1841
Relation: Housekeeper
Gender: Female
Where born: Lambeth, Surrey, England

Civil Parish: Lambeth
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage: View Image

Registration district: Lambeth
Sub registration district: Lambeth Church Second
ED, institution, or vessel: 21
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 46
Household Members: Name Age
Ellen Bakley 20
John Day 27 unmarried
John Saml Day 2



Births Dec 1858 (>99%)
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Day John Samuel Lambeth 1d 297

Pauline

Pauline Report 6 Nov 2008 13:01

Thankyou all so much. This is them
Pauline

Pauline

Pauline Report 6 Nov 2008 23:34

Hi, Can you help me find John Bateley's birth. Is there a death certificate for John & Jane as I believe Ellen was in the workhouse in Lambeth. Can you tell me where to find details of residents or inmates of the Lambeth Workhouse.

Samspade

Samspade Report 7 Nov 2008 07:30

Best you could hope for is a baptism for John as he was born c1801 not sure if he was born in Surrey it looks like a U where the yes's go.Nothing on freebmd for their deaths. And I can't find either of them on the 51 census.

http://www.workhouses.org.uk/Lambeth I don't think it gives lists of inmates unfortunately but may be worth a look.

Samspade

Samspade Report 7 Nov 2008 07:40

Pauline,
I've found Ellen's birth

Births Jun 1840
Bately Ellen Lambeth 4 225

Pauline

Pauline Report 7 Nov 2008 11:14

Thank you so much. I have tried workhouse Lambeth with no luck. I will keep trying.
Pauline

Pauline

Pauline Report 9 Nov 2008 11:47

I have just found a cousin who has a little more detail about the Bateley family. It appears that Jane and her children went to the workhouse in Lambeth after the death of John Bateley. His wife Jane died in the workhouse in the same year they went there, 1851.
Pauline

Pauline

Pauline Report 9 Nov 2008 11:50

I live in Australia & it hard for me to stay on line with the time difference. I read a note from some one with regards to people staying on line for any questions that may need to be answered. I do understand this but will you bear with me as there is a 9 hour time difference between us. It is almost 10 pm now and I won't be on too much longer. Many thanks
Pauline

Pauline

Pauline Report 9 Nov 2008 12:17

Sorry , John Bateley & his wife Jane lived & married in Norfolk before going to Lambeth London.
Thanks
Pauline

Pauline

Pauline Report 10 Nov 2008 06:53

Hi
I have found out from a family member I have just found that John & Jane Bateley were born in Norfolk about 1801. They then moved to Lambeth where Ellen was born. He died around 1851 and Jane & the family were sent or taken to the workhouse. Jane died in the workhouse in 1851
Regards

Samspade

Samspade Report 10 Nov 2008 07:57

There is a marriage of John Bateley to Jane Doughty 22/11/1827 Brancaster, Norfolk .
How is lovely Oz this morning/evening it's pouring with rain here (uk)

Pauline

Pauline Report 11 Nov 2008 00:17

Hi Samspade, Weather is overcast here and pretty miserable here. I wish it would rain so as our dam will fill up. Thank you for that information, Sounds like it could be them.
Regards
Pauline

Pauline

Pauline Report 13 Nov 2008 01:20

I just today found another member of my family who has more details of the Bateley family. They say the son James Bateley was born about 1833 in Fakenham Norfolk. Mary Bateley born about 1828 in Surrey Baptised on 3/5/1829. Can you help me find them
Pauline

Samspade

Samspade Report 13 Nov 2008 07:14

1881 England Census

Name: James Bateley
Age: 49
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1832
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary A.
Gender: Male
Where born: Fakenham, Norfolk, England

Civil Parish: Lambeth
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street address: 3 Fountain Court
Condition as to marriage: Married

Occupation: General Dealer

Registration district: Lambeth
Sub registration district: Lambeth Church Second
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Elizabeth Bateley 18
Ellen Bateley 16
George Bateley 13
James Bateley 49
James Bateley 20
Mary A. Bateley 44
Mary A. Bateley 22
Robert Bateley 6


Samspade

Samspade Report 13 Nov 2008 07:15

Name: James Bateley
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833
Year of Registration: 1881
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at Death: 48
District: Lambeth
County: Greater London, London, Surrey
Volume: 1d
Page: 250

Samspade

Samspade Report 13 Nov 2008 07:16

1851 England Census

Name: James Bately
Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833
Relation: Pauper
Gender: Male
Where born: Fakenham, Norfolk, England

Civil Parish: Lambeth
Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary Princes Road
Town: Lambeth
County/Island: Surrey
Country: England

Registration district: Lambeth
Sub registration district: Lambeth Church Second
ED, institution, or vessel: Lambeth Workhouse