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oh the satisfaction of finding the right one for you does me the power of good,
thanks for letting me know
vivienne

hello Vivienne
it was the correct cert edith was 35 yrs and her father was lemuel williams, going to look for her birth now :)
thanks again!! :D

pob luc
vivienne

diolch yn fawr iawn vivienne - you're a star!!

thank you so much will send for the cert straight away!! :)

i think this is their marriage as there is a name missing on the page on freebmd but when checked on the full index it says that edith williams married james j davies

Marriages Sep 1930 (93%)
Cannon Thomas H McGrath Pontypridd 11a 1291
McGrath Gwenllian Cannon Pontypridd 11a 1291
Williams Edith Davies Pontypridd 11a 1291

if you send for that one use james fathers name as a checking ref as then if its wrong you wil get a partial refund of your £7
and with ediths age and her fathers name[if there is one of course] hopefully you can find her for sure then.
good luck and if more help needed ill try
vivienne

there is this marriage in 1926 but a spouse is missing and having checked the complete index the williams who married james davies was not called edith so we can rule that one out

Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page
Marriages Sep 1926 (71%)
Davies James Evans Merthyr T. 11a 1215
Davies James Williams Merthyr T. 11a 1215
Evans Margaret J Davies Merthyr T. 11a 1215
Martin Blodwen Nind Merthyr T. 11a 1215
Nind Reuben C Martin Merthyr T. 11a 1215

i take it that james john davies and edith williams are your friends parents so you are sure of his parents names from his birth cert??
also what year was their eldest child born please so it gives us a better timescale to look for the marriage
for edith williams birth you will need her marriage cert first to get her age and fathers nameand occupation to be sure as there are hundreds of edith williams born around the right time all over the place

vivienne

i will have a look
vivienne

i'm useless at this and in need of help - again :(

can't find the marriage of james john davies (birth cert say born 1893) and edith williams

can't find edith's birth either - i think i have found her in the 1901 census it says she was born in 1895 porth glamorgan (wales)
her parents lemuel williams
and margaret J but can't find either in any of the other census

what can i do? any help would much greatly appreciated

oh dear
davies and evans so you have your work cut out !
pob luc
vivienne

james john davies
born 11th sept 1893

father was john davies
mother anne (nee evans)

thank you both again for help & guidance

Diolch yn fawr iawn

there is a reg for j .j. davies in aberystwyth in 1893 which is the only one over 20 years
its on freebmd

Those great minds strike again ... ;)

What about his marriage? Surely your friend knows his mother's name! Including, hopefully, her birth surname. ... Well, duh, that would be on his own birth certificate.

If the marriage could be found, the certificate would state the spouses' ages and fathers' names.

also you can start with his parents marriage cert as that will give his fathers age etc ,as long as he told the truth of course,
vivienne

hello

yes he was born in penrhyncoch aberystwyth,
good idea about cert for age, going to try and ask neighbour again for his age at death, didn't like to keep asking as it was annoying him he couldn't remember

sorry what i meant about penrhyncoch aberystwyth was.
was he born there??
its the only penrhyncoch i know of and the only one i can find on the map.
if he was, then after getting his age from his death cert,hopefully, you know which area to start searching for his birth.
dont know cardiff area too well.
vivienne

if he was living in Pontypridd, which is about seven miles north of Cardiff, Aberystwyth would not have featured, though I must say I have never heard of Penrhyncoch around Pontypridd but there could well be one.

can you find out where his death was registered in 1957 as there is no cardiff reg for that year
but there 2 jj davies in that year
and his death certificate will give you his age to help find his birth
and is it penrhyncoch aberystwyth or another one?
vivienne

in 1957 Glossop Terrace was Cardiff Royal Infirmary - with a name like Davies in Wales I wish you luck cariad!!!!