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Trying to find parents of Lucy Turner b1880 Arnold nottingham, married to george page.

Helen

Could this be her ?

1891 census

Lucy Turner
Age: 12
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1879

Relation: Granddaughter
Gender: Female
Where born: Arnold, Nottinghamshire, England

Civil Parish: Arnold
Ecclesiastical parish: Arnold
Town: Arnold
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England

Registration district: Basford
Sub registration district: Arnold
ED, institution, or vessel: 5a

Household Members: Name Age
Samuel Baggaley 46
Eveline Lovett 66
Eveline Lowe 5
Jane Lowe 25
Lucy Turner 12

1881 census

Lucy Turner
Age: 1
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Lewis
Gender: Female
Where born: Arnold, Nottinghamshire, England

Civil Parish: Arnold
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England

Street address: 2 Hardstaffs Yard

Registration district: Basford
Sub registration district: Arnold
ED, institution, or vessel: 5

Household Members: Name Age
Lewis Lowe 23
Ann Turner 2
Lucy Turner 1
Maria Turner 22

Hi

Yes that looks like her.

Helen

But why does father have a different name?

May be they weren't married - give me a minute and I'll look at the original

ok thanks

Maria Turner was housekeeper to Lewis Lowe.

This might be a euphemism (!) as he is definitely unmarried in 1881

Just having a look at 1891

He had two children with the housekeeper?

in 1891 Lucy is shown as the grandaughter to Evelyn Lovatt

I'll carry on digging !

Thankyou

Think this is the mother

1861 Census

Maria Turner
Age: 2
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: Samuel
Mother's Name: Ann
Gender: Female
Where born: Arnold, Nottinghamshire, England

Civil Parish: Arnold
County/Island: Nottinghamshire
Country: England

Registration district: Basford
Sub registration district: Arnold
ED, institution, or vessel: 3

Household schedule number: 89
Household Members: Name Age
Ann Turner 28
John Turner 8
Maria Turner 2
Samuel Turner 30
Samuel Turner 4

This means that her two children were almost definitely illigitimate, as they share the mothers maiden name and even "if" the chap she is housekeeper to, is the father, there is no way to confirm that !!

He could just be a single man, providing a "disgraced" woman with a home ????

But what about the grandmother? or do you think she might not be her grandmother?

This is a long shot !!!

I think...

Eveline Lovatt gave birth to Maria Lovatt..she then had 2 children (Ann and Lucy) and either WAS married and was widdowed OR used rhe name Turner, from the children's father.

The fact that she was housekeeper to a Mr Lowe is a red-herring because Eveline Lowe (aged 5 in 1891) is also Eveline Lovatt's child and it may be that
Maria was just lodging at the Lowe's.

You will need to find some birth records to confirm any of this !!

confusing, thankyou for your help

I,ve received Lucy,s birth cert, says mother Maria Turner. Father is blank. So why would eveline say shes her granddaughter, would anyone have a look at all this and let me know what they think please.

Helen

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This looks like Grandma Eveline in 1881 but the writing is terrible. Husband's name has been transcribed Hezekiah, I'm not sure that's what it says.
1881 census
39 High St., Arnold, Nottinghamshire
Hezekiah? Lovett, 65, frame work knitter, born Notts, Lamberley?
Eveline, wife, 55, seamstress, born Derbyshire, Kimberley
Ann E. Dawson, grandau, 15, lace dresser, born Derbyshire, Codnor Park