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We are in California and have documents showing a great Grandfather named Ithiel Dearden, allegedly born in Manchester in 1869. He moved to America - and was an adventurer in Alaska. We can find NO record of his name anywhere on this site, in any spelling variation. Any help is appreciated. Thank you kindly.

This is his birth

Ithiel Dearden
Year of Registration: 1869
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
District: Manchester (1837-1924)
County: Lancashire
Volume: 8d
Page: 349 (click to see

1880 US census has this entry

Name: I Dearden
Birth: abt 1870 - England
Residence: 1880 - Peabody, Essex, Massachusetts


sorry I do not have the correct membership on Ancestry to view the details

Put cursor over the details and managed to do a quick print screen

Father John age35, wife D age 27, Mary A age 9, Jennette age 4, and John A age 2

1871 possibly this family

Name: John Dearden
Age: 26
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Dorothy
Gender: Male
Where born: Middleton, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Blackley
Ecclesiastical parish: St Peter
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability: View Image
Registration district: Manchester
Sub registration district: Blackley
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Household schedule number: 91
Household Members: Name Age
Dorothy Dearden 20
Ethal Dearden 1 - son
John Dearden 26
Mary Ann Dearden 1 month

1880 US census:

Name Relation Marital Status Gender Race Age Birthplace Occupation Father's Birthplace Mother's Birthplace
John DEARDEN Self M Male W 35 ENG Laborer ENG ENG
D DEARDEN Wife M Female W 27 ENG ENG ENG
I DEARDEN Son S Male W 10 ENG ENG ENG
Mary A DEARDEN Dau S Female W 9 ENG ENG ENG
Jennette DEARDEN Dau S Female W 4 MA ENG ENG
John A DEARDEN Son S Male W 2 NJ ENG ENG


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Source Information:
Census Place Peabody, Essex, Massachusetts
Family History Library Film 1254528
NA Film Number T9-0528
Page Number 294C

Maureen, it's free on Familysearch.

This is the US census previously mentioned

1880 United States Federal Census
about I Dearden
Name: I Dearden
Home in 1880: Peabody, Essex, Massachusetts
Age: 10
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Birthplace: England
Relation to Head of Household: Son
Father's Name: John
Father's birthplace: England
Mother's Name: D
Mother's birthplace: England
Neighbors: View others on page
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Gender: Male
Cannot read/write:

Blind:

Deaf and dumb:

Otherwise disabled:

Idiotic or insane: View Image
Household Members: Name Age
John Dearden 35
D Dearden 27
I Dearden 10
Mary A Dearden 9
Jennette Dearden 4
John A Dearden 2

Margaret,

I never gave that a thought - should have known that.



Possible marriage
Marriages Jun 1869 (>99%)
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BOWKER Dorothy Manchester 8d 203
DAVENPORT Elizabeth Manchester 8d 203
DEARDEN John Manchester 8d 203
PAYNE James Manchester 8d 203

Dont quite know what this is???

Providence, Rhode Island Directory, 1890
about Ithiel Dearden
Name: Ithiel Dearden
Location 2: boards 32 Touro
Occupation: compositor
Year: 1891, 1892
City: Providence
State: RI

Found this on Genforum:

from "Printers and Printing in Providence, 1762 - 1907"
prepared by a committee of Providence Typographical Union #33 as a souvenir of the 50th anniversary of its institution
printed in 1907

"The Journeymen"
p. XXVII.

"ITHIEL DEARDEN - Born England Sept. 24, 1870; learned printing in Providence at Reid's, and later was employed on the Evening Telegram; was initiated into Providence Union May 31, 1896; now employed on the Brockton Times."

Darby

Julie seems to have found his birth. If you send for the birth certificate (you can do it online but not sure of the cost from the USA) you will find out his fathers name which will help you in your search.

Darby

The cost of ordering a certificate is the same anywhere in the world ....... £7, but of course that has to be translated into local currency. I'm not sure what the US exchange rate is at the moment. It'll probably cost you around $20US (it would be about $15 for me up here in Canada).



Go to www.gro.gov.uk, click on Ordering Certificates Online, follow instructions. Answer YES when asked if you have the GRO number ...... that's the set of two numbers at the end of the entry posted by Julie


NEVER pay more than £8 (asked by some local Registry Offices) for a certificate. There are companies offering to get them for you, and they are a total rip-off.




NEVER pay for credits on this site to access official documents such as censuses and other records. It is by far the most expensive way to do your research.


The reason you have not found Ithiel's name on here is simply that no-one has entered his name on their family tree. All names other than those in the official records are a result of ordinary GR members like yourself entering information on the trees.




sylvia

Thanks to everyone for all your brilliant ideas. My husband is extremely excited and when we visit England over Christmas, perhaps we will have a place for him to discover some ancestry - I found mine - so happily - on this site. Interestingly, our ancestors are from the same region! Such a very small world. Thank you everyone again - Darby Patterson (Darby, Slater, Tarbuck, Botts and Smith families)

Darby, do you have an ancestry sub?

Also, read the Tips for Newbies which gives you some of the sites you can use. (I love his name as Ethal on that 1871 census)

what's an ancestry sub? (add a "duh"...) I don't use this site to it's max - I think it's related to the hours in a day! thanks!

I had forgotten about this thread as there was another one just a couple of days ago.


So got all the same information twice

Read the tips for newbies Darby. Its near the top of this page now.

slightly embarrassing as I've been a member for over a year! I'll take a look - and keep my window available more often. thanks again -

1900 United States Federal Census
about John H Dearden
Name: John H Dearden
Home in 1900: Peabody, Essex, Massachusetts
Age: 52
Birth Date: Jul 1847
Birthplace: England
Race: White
Ethnicity: American
Immigration Year: 1874
Relationship to head-of-house: Head
Father's Birthplace: England
Mother's Birthplace: England
Spouse's Name: Dorothy
Marriage Year: 1869
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 31
Residence : Peabody Town, Essex, Massachusetts

John H Dearden 52
Dorothy Dearden 49
Annie Dearden 28
Jeanette Dearden 23
Robert Dearden 16
Sidney B Dearden 13
Esther L Dearden 11
Leonard Dearden 8
Gladys B Dearden 4

Source Citation: Year: 1900; Census Place: Peabody, Essex, Massachusetts; Roll: T623 647; Page: 9A; .

I am sure there is another very informative thread on this - have posted on it recently

thought so - there are four threads in all on Ithiel - three by Darby!