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Here we go again!!
I have grandma marriage certificate; 3a 1345 - 1922

Elsie Winifred Martin (spinster aged 23)
married
Clarence George Bampton (bachelor aged 30)
on 27 March 1922 in the district of Eton, county of Buckinghamshire. easy!

His father - John Robert Bampton, I have lots on him

Her father is not named!

Elder family members state she was a cockney, born within Bow Bells, giving her birth as: 1899. They also remember 'auntie Lil' and 'auntie Em who went to australia'

1901 census gives Elsie (age 2) born London O Ford Bow, very nicely within a family group (though no lil nor em!) maybe born later

It's from there I lose her! - and the plot!

the only one I found with any promise is 1911 census, district Marlborough (wiltshire) with 'Edwards family' (odd family makup)

'daughters' do not have 'heads' name!?

is London St. Georges Hanover Square near O Ford Bow?
London O Ford Bow is Bow Bells according to Wiki.

I have found a birth for the right name 1899 - but its in reading!
(2c 372)

Not sure where to go from here!

help from someone with more experience then me (and time) greatly appreciated (with credits to spare)!

regards
carol

The correct names are certainly there (Lil and Em)in 1911,and some born in London..

Registration District:
Marlborough Sub District:
Marlborough EnumerationDistrict:
12 Parish:
North Savernake

Address:
61 Browns Farm Marlborough Wiltshire County:
Wiltshire


EDWARDS, James Head Married M 32 1879 Labourer On Farm Wilts Preshute Parish
EDWARDS, Susan Wife Married
8 years F 33 1878 London St Georges Hanover SQ VIEW
MARTIN, Elsie Winifred Illegitimate Daughter F 12 1899 London St Georges Hanover SQ
MARTIN, Lilian Gladys Daughter F 7 1904 London St Georges Hanover SQ
MARTIN, Emily Annie Daughter F 5 1906 Penarth S Wales
MARTIN, Nellie Florence Daughter F 3 1908 Wilts Winterbourne Monkton
MARTIN, Rachel Mother Widow F 71 1840 Shelbourn Wilts<<should be Edwards


The transcriber has put all the children down as Martin when on the image it actually has them as Edwards and only Elsie as Martin.

Susan and James have been married 8 yrs.

ahh - the bit I coulnt see - THANKYOU

Marriages Sep 1902

Edwards James St. Geo. H. Sq. 1a 1032
Martin Susan St. Geo. H. Sq. 1a 1032

In the work house?Found seperately as they would part children from adults.
Part of mans inhumanity to man over the years !

1901

Registration District:
Chelsea Sub District:
Chelsea North EnumerationDistrict:
Ecclesiastical Parish:
St John Chelsea

Civil Parish:
Chelsea Municipal Borough:
Address:
Chelsea County:
London


MARTIN, Elsie Inmate F 2 1899
Birth place Unknown
MARTIN, Susan Inmate Single F 25 1876 Cook
St Georges
London

Births Sep 1898
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Martin Elsie Winifred St. Geo. H. Sq. 1a 455

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Births Sep 1903
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Edwards Lilian Gladys St. Geo. H. Sq. 1a 445

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Births Dec 1907
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EDWARDS Emily Ann Merthyr T. 11a 839

Thankyou
I saw the inmate, but discarded it when I found a 2 year with charles martin and family on 1901 RG 13/335 born O Ford Bow
(cant help thinking of the old aunts though!)
so, maybe Susan 'Edwards' was her mother?

sorry yes! - so exicted I hadnt read it properly!

Births Dec 1907

EDWARDS Nelly Florence Marlbro' 5a 96

Last child from 1911.

poor granny! - no daddy!

many, many thanks for your time (and work!)

regards
carol

Your welcome.

TWINS!

Twins?
Who where when?

Come on ,,divy up......

cannot be twins - born in different towns!
nellie and emily both born dec 1907?

nevermind, .. either way - still doesnt give granny a daddy!
regards
C.

Shows my observation ..not !
I must have an incorrect birth for one of them I think..
Sorry bout that.
Prob the one born in Wales is wrong.
Edwards in Wales are ten a penny !

But I really cant find any other births to suit...

My Granny was illegit as well,but she did know who her dad was as she lived with him and her mum until he died when she was 5 and then the kids were put in a home...

Still took me months to find his first name as all I had was Mr Head died 1913sh in the Eastend of London...

steyning? 2b 246 will google it to find out where it is!

just only one there with Emily Annie!

funny that - my new grandaughters name!!

no - west sussex!

Yea,I had to go into it on freebmd to find out where it was when I searched earlier !

I really must improve my Geog...

Image def says Penarth S Wales.

freebmd is the site I am using - with the odd £ 6.00 ish on find my past! and under a tenner now & then on ancestry

I had a lot of this stuff back in 2000 when I bought Family Tree Maker from america - I did not know then what the internet was! - and uploaded my tree. changed compter, home and country . - now back in the uk for a while

now, as I start to fill in the the tree on ancestry they 'hint' at a connection! - thats my tree! #878 vol. 84 -
guess FTM and ancestry are one and the same now!

ha ha, moany old woman!

anyway ... this is great - thankyou for your help