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Nicola

Nicola Report 27 Apr 2011 22:36

My elderly aunt remembers that she had an uncle who died as a young child. His parents were Hugh Menzies and Jessie Nelson, who lived in Fife. Hugh and Jessie had 2 daughters c1898 and then a son who I cant find anything about. Please can anyone give me some information on him?
Thank you Nicky

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 27 Apr 2011 22:38

Scotlandspeople is your best bet unless they lived in England after they married

Nicola

Nicola Report 27 Apr 2011 22:39

Thanks I will try there

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 27 Apr 2011 22:43

1901 is this the family ?

Name: Reed Hugh Menzies
Age: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name : Jessie N Menzies
Gender: Male
Where born: Gifford, Haddingtonshire
Registration Number: 835
Registration district: Kirkmahoe
Civil parish: Kirkmahoe
COUNTY: Dumfriesshire
Address: Manse Of Kirkmahoe
Occupation: Minister Of Kirkmahoe Parish
ED: 1
Household schedule number: 12
Line: 10
Roll: CSSCT1901_432
Household Members: Name Age
Reed Hugh Menzies 31
Jessie N Menzies 29
Margaret S Menzies 19 MO
Annie Crosbie 19
Isabella Wyllie 34

Wonder if that should read Revd. short for Reverend

Nicola

Nicola Report 27 Apr 2011 22:47

Yes thats them, and its should say Rev

Nicola

Nicola Report 28 Apr 2011 08:04

Their 2nd daughter was younger than Margaret so their son must have been born c1903

Cathy

Cathy Report 28 Apr 2011 09:39

Hi Nicola,

There is a Hugh (41) and Jessie (37) Menzies living in Dysart / Fife in the 1911 Census with a Margret (11) and Janet E (9)

1 1911 MENZIES JANET E F 9 DYSART /FIFE 426/00 005/00 027

There are 2 male Menzies births in Dysart / Fife between 1901 and 1911
John 1904 and Andrew 1907

Quoy

Quoy Report 28 Apr 2011 09:49

posting this in case you do not have it
Glasgow Herald (Glasgow, Scotland), Saturday, June 4, 1898; Issue 133.

Menzies Nelson At Pollockshields Parish Church on the 2nd inst by the Rev T D W Niven ?? assisted by Rev Norman Macleod , the Rev Hugh Menzies B.D minister of Kirkmahoe Dumfriesshire to Jessie ??holas daughter of Robert Nelson

Nicola

Nicola Report 28 Apr 2011 13:22

Hi Cathy
Thats my family. I never knew my aunt was called Janet, we always knew her as Janie. Im thinking that John maybe the birth Im looking for as it was said to be close to Janies.
Thanks for your help Nicky

Cathy

Cathy Report 28 Apr 2011 13:39


You're welcome Nicky.... but the trouble is I can't find a death for John born in 1904 in Fife or Dumfries???

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 28 Apr 2011 13:48

An interesting bit about Hugh's only daughter, who died in 2008, from his second marriage can be found here

http://www.grouprelations.com/news-Isabel_Menzies_Lyth-Independent.php


http://news.scotsman.com/obituaries/Isabel-Menzies-Lyth.3699576.jp

Nicola

Nicola Report 28 Apr 2011 13:52

The story of this boy was given to me last week by Janets daughter who is 85 . She said her mother remembers her parents leaving the house crying and seeing a hearse outside, she also said there wasnt much in age between children so I assumed it was John but as you cant find a death then maybe it was Andrew. I told my aunt that I would try and find out his name for her.
I will tell her what you found , Thank you.

Nicola

Nicola Report 28 Apr 2011 13:55

Rootgatherer, she was a very formidable woman !!

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 28 Apr 2011 14:05

Did you know that Hugh was a Past Master of St Clair of Dysart 520?

http://www.dysart520.co.uk/master.htm

Nicola

Nicola Report 28 Apr 2011 14:18

I know, i found that out a couple of days ago, not quite sure what that is though. Are they Masons?

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 28 Apr 2011 14:19

These are the male deaths in Fife where the deceased is aged between 0 years and 10 years in the period 1900 to 1920

1 1920 MENZIES ----- WANDS M 0 COWDENBEATH /FIFE 410/01 0023
2 1902 MENZIES DAVID M 0 KIRKCALDY AND ABBOTSHALL /FIFE 442/00 0269
3 1918 MENZIES GEORGE M 3 TULLIALLAN /FIFE 458/0B 0035
4 1909 MENZIES JAMES ALEXANDER M 0 KINGLASSIE /FIFE 440/00 0030
5 1899 MENZIES JOHN MCKENZIE M 0 ABERDOUR (FIFE) /FIFE 401/00 0015
6 1909 MENZIES ROBERT STANTON M 0 ST ANDREWS AND ST LEONARDS /FIFE 453/00 0066
7 1906 MENZIES SAMUEL M 0 DUNFERMLINE /FIFE 424/00 0211
8 1910 MENZIES THOMAS M 1 BEATH (FIFE) /FIFE 410/00 0151
9 1919 MENZIES THOMAS M 5 DUNFERMLINE /FIFE 424/00 0560

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 28 Apr 2011 14:20

Sorry - yes, it seems to be a Masonic Lodge - judging the pictures on that website link.

rootgatherer

rootgatherer Report 28 Apr 2011 14:24

Don't think that it is any of the above. I think he died in Dumfries?

These are the Dumfries deaths - my money is on number 2! Sorry I don't have enough credits to look at it to be sure.


1 1895 MENZIES ---- M 0 MOFFAT /DUMFRIES 842/00 0031
2 1905 MENZIES HUGH VICTOR M 0 KIRKMAHOE /DUMFRIES 835/00 0008
3 1902 MENZIES JOHN M 3 BRYDEKIRK /DUMFRIES 813/0B 0011


Nicola

Nicola Report 28 Apr 2011 14:25

Thanks for the deaths, it could be any of them. I will write to my aunt and see if she can give me more information, Thank you

Nicola

Nicola Report 28 Apr 2011 14:27

That one makes more sense, named after his father. There is a family connection with Kirkmanoe