Military Chat

Hello,
I am looking for any information on Arthur Bertram Cato who family tales say served in the Army during WW1. Does he have any recods?

It is said that he was invalided out of the Services.

He was born in 1877 in the London area. Also he married a lady called Arabella in 1908.
Nala

I can't see any service records for him on Findmypast but 70% of WW1 records were destroyed in a fire so they may not have survived.

The lady he married was called Arabella Black. This is the reference for the marriage certificate:-

First name(s) ARTHUR BERTRAM
Last name CATO
Marriage quarter 3
Marriage year 1908
Registration month -
MarriageFinder™ ARTHUR BERTRAM CATO married one of these people
ARABELLA BLACK, AMALIE EMILIE SCHERNEKOW
District FULHAM
District number -
County London
Country England
Volume 1A
Page 865

Kath. x

This might be his death:-

First name(s) ARTHUR B
Last name CATO
Gender Male
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1877
Age 71
Death quarter 3
Death year 1948
District BRIDGWATER
County Somerset
Volume 7C
Page 85
Country England

Kath. x

This looks like him in the 1939 register:-

Cato Household (3 People)
24 King Square , Bridgwater M.B., Somerset, England

FIRST NAME(S) LAST NAME(S) DOB SEX OCCUPATION MARITAL STATUS

Arthur B Cato 21 Mar 1877 Male Club Steward (County Cl Married
Annie Alice Cato 04 Jun 1895 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married
Elizabeth Dean 10 Jul 1866 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married

Not sure if Annie Alice is a second wife or someone else?

Kath. x

The 1939 Register

24 King Square , Bridgwater M.B., Somerset, England


Arthur B Cato 21 Mar 1877 Club Steward (County Cl M
Annie Alice Cato 04 Jun 1895 Unpaid Domestic Duties M
Elizabeth Dean 10 Jul 1866 Unpaid Domestic Duties M

and 2 still sealed files


found some other snippets for you to mull over

found an Arabella Cato marrying or could be remarrying 1914 no new wedding as far as I can see for Arthur

There are these on the electoral roll with Arthur Cato - Alice as wife, Sarah and Winifred Cato all over 21.

Name: Arthur Cato
Year: 1933
County or Borough: Hackney
Ward or Division/Constituency: Hackney
Street address: 98 Barnett

:-)

Thanking you both for your findings.

Very helpful. I now know via an E-mail that Arthur suffered Post Traumatic Stress and lived apart from Arabella. She went to live in Canada with her daughter.

I suppose the 1911 may give up more little snippets too !!

The 1939 throws up some very interesting questions.

Once again thank you. Nala. :-)

I can't find them in the 1911 census.

Kath. x

????

Name: Arthur Bertram Cato
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1916
Event Place: Saskatchewan, Canada
Gender: Male
Age: 38
Marital Status: Married
Ethnicity: English
Relationship to Head of Household: Self
Birthplace: England
Birth Year (Estimated): 1878
Immigration Year: 1911
Military Service Place: C
Township:
Province: Saskatchewan
District Number: 23 Moose Jaw
Sub-District Number: 17G
Enumeration District:
Family Number: 14
Page: 2
Line Number: 1
Affiliate Film Number: T-21931
Digital Folder Number: 004363960
Image Number: 01173


Household Role Gender Age Birthplace
Arthur Bertram Cato Self M 38y England
Ethel Cato Wife F 35y England
Gladyss Cato Daughter F 15y England
Doris Cato Daughter F 11y England
Constance Cato Daughter F 6y England
Marjorie Cato Daughter F 1y Saskatchewan



Citing this Record:
"Canada Census, 1916," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KMPM-5YF : accessed 18 April 2016), Arthur Bertram Cato, Saskatchewan, Canada; citing p. 2, line 1; Library and Archives Canada, Ottawa, Ontario; FHL microfilm 2,434,946.

The Silver War badge was awarded to all of those military personnel who had served at home or overseas during the war, and who had been discharged from the army under King’s Regulations. Expiry of a normal term of engagement did not count.

The following men by the name Cato were awarded the SWB.

Name Badge Number Regiment Regimental Number
A. E. Cato B92516 Rifle Brigade S/17250
Alfred Geo Cato B338383 Labour Corps 505999
Arthur L. Cato B176914 London Regiment 678258
Arthur Wm Cato B25073 Royal Warwickshire Regiment 35251
Charles Cato 411355 Depot. The King's Liverpool Regiment (R) 18500
E. P. Cato 2781 East Yorkshire Regiment
Henry Cato B342835 Labour Corps 435320
Hugh Cato B87966 British West Indies Regiment 581
John Jesse Cato B213656 Somerset Light Infantry 30545
T. F. Cato 152474 Northamptonshire Regiment 25618
Walter Sidney Cato 285870 London Regiment 471281

As Arthur is believed to have fought on the Somme (Jul-Nov 1918) his term of engagement may have expired while he was still recovering.
.....

If the Canadian census is correct, perhaps we should be looking for Canadian military records instead of British?

Yes – It is actually Cato

Canada, Soldiers of the First World War, 1914-1918
Aruther Bertrand Cats
Birth Date: 21 Mar 1879
Birth Location: Newington, London, England
Relative: Mrs E Cats
Regiment Number: 106130

Image says Born in Stoke Newington, London, England
N.o.k Mrs E Cato of 877 Connaught Av Moose Jaw
Trade – Salesman
Attested 31 Dec 1914

You should be able to view the 2 images from the Canadian Archives site
http://tinyurl.com/jzfcpgk

If that's 'timed out' try the search page
http://tinyurl.com/odx6r2q

He was still in Canada in 1921

Arthur B Cato
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Age: 40
Birth Year: abt 1881
Birth Place: England
Relation to Head of House: Boarder
Father Birth Place: England
Mother Birth Place: England
Year of Immigration: 1902
Racial or Tribal Origin: English
Province or Territory: Ontario
District: Toronto North
District Number: 132
Sub-district: Ward 2
Sub-District Number: 8
City, Town or Village: Toronto North (ward 2)
Street or Township: 12 Ottawa St
Municipality: Ward 2
Occupation: Comer Traveller
Income: 1620

Name Age
Frank Lamerton 28
Gertrude Lamerton 26
Gertrude Lamerton 1
Arthur B Cato 40 <<< married
Annie Cato 29 <<< married, born England (cal 1892)

Could Annie have gone back to England with him?? She's a similar age to the Annie Alice on the 1939 Register.

Quebec, Canada, Vital and Church Records (Drouin Collection), 1621-1968
Cato
[Arthur Bertran Cato]
Spouse: Harrison
Event: Mariage (Marriage)
Marriage Year: 1920
Marriage Location: Montréal, Québec (Quebec)
Religion: Methodist
Place of Worship or Institution: Methodist Saint James

Image reads

Arthur Bertram Cato, Toronto Ont, Bachelor of full age, Commercial Traveller son of the late Samuel Cato and the late Emileen Rouse, his wife and
Annie Alice Harrison spinster of full age of London England, daughter of the late George Harrison and Elizabeth Watkins (could be Warkins) his wife
Married by Licence 17 Nov 1920

Unless he divorced his first wife, he married bigamously!!

This could be their arrival back in the UK

UK, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
Arthur Cato
Birth Date: abt 1879
Age: 52
Port of Departure: New York, New York, United States
Arrival Date: 4 Feb 1931
Port of Arrival: London, England
Ports of Voyage: Plymouth
Ship Name: Ascania
Shipping line: Cunard White Star
Official Number: 147307

heading to
130 Crealoch Str, Woxsworth(??)
Also listed is
Annie age 36
Norman age 9
Bruce age 6

[Crealoch Street appears to be in Wandsworth,London SE18]
The children are probably the 2 sealed files on the 1939 register
They are all intending to live permanently in the UK

Thanking you Detective and others.

I am now awaiting news back from Canada to confirm (or perhaps I was the messenger of things they did not know !!)

Great work Nala. :-)

The name isn't exactly a common one. It would be a coincidence if the Canadian records didn't relate to him.
Assuming they are, he'd 'married' 3 times
Arabelle, Ethel then Alice Annie.

The Canadian military records are the only ones to be found in either country.

To go with the marriage in Canada for proof of parents

Name: Arthur B Cato
Age: 14
Estimated birth year: abt 1877
Relation: Son
Father's name: Samuel Cato
Mother's name: Emmeline Cato
Gender: Male
Where born: Hackney, London, England
Civil Parish: Enfield
Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrews
Town: Enfield
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England

rest of the family
Name Age
Samuel Cato 42
Emmeline Cato 36
Ernest J W Cato 17
Arthur B Cato 14
Lillian B E Cato 9

He was born in Hackney, a scholar, father a fancy draper, mother a milliner.

Have found a Benjamin Arthur more than 10 years younger than Arthur B but he's the nearest. Looks like he was a bit of a lad. Where did Ethel and the children go?

She was still in Saskatchewan in 1921, with additional children!

Ethel Cato
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Married
Age: 40
Birth Year: abt 1881
Birth Place: England
Relation to Head of House: Head
Father Birth Place: England
Mother Birth Place: England
Year of Immigration: 1911
Racial or Tribal Origin: English
Province or Territory: Saskatchewan
District: Moose Jaw
District Number: 221
Sub-district: Moose Jaw (City)
Sub-District Number: 51
City, Town or Village: Moose Jaw Ward 3
Section Number: 333 Oxford W
Municipality: Ward 3
Ethel Cato 40
Doris Cato 17
Annie Cato 11
Marjorie Cato 6 - Saskatchewan c1915

Maxwell Bull 22
Gladys Bull 21 < Daughter
Douglas Bull 1 < grandson
Clifford Bull 4/12 < grandson

Looking at the children born in the UK - if they were registered as Cato, there these possibilities

Births Sep 1901 (>99%)_
CATO Gladys Berkhampstead 3a 791

Births Sep 1904 (>99%)
CATO Doris Berkhampstead 3a 882

Births Jun 1910 (>99%)
CATO Constance Lilian Guildford 2a 97

Logging off now

Arabella with relatives 1891, some familiar names.

Arabella Black
Age: 11
Estimated birth year: abt 1880
Relation: Niece
Gender: Female
Where born: Cambridge; Heath, London, England
Civil Parish: Wycombe Old Borough
Ecclesiastical parish: All Saints
Town: Wycombe
County/Island: Buckinghamshire
Country: England
Street address:

View image
Registration district: Wycombe
ED, institution, or vessel: 4
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1137
Folio: 107
Page Number: 4
Household Members:
Name Age
Richard Crook 39
Arabella Crook 40
Richard N Crook 16
William H Crook 14
Lilian Crook 4
Ethel Crook 1 (is this where she got her name)
Arabella Black 11
Albert Gent

Arabella's daughter no 3 named Constance Lilian in 1910 to some on Ancestry


Arabella is a servant in this household in 1901
Name: Arabella Black
Age: 21
Estimated birth year: abt 1880
Relation to Head: Servant
Gender: Female
Birth Place: Cambridge, Heath, London, England
Civil Parish: Leyton
Search Photos: Search for 'Leyton' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
Ecclesiastical parish: Walthamstow St Stephen
Town: Leyton
County/Island: Essex
Country: England
Street address:

Registration district: West Ham
Sub-registration district: North Leyton

Albert Thomson 62
Annie M Thomson 40
Florence Nightingale 17
Arabella Black 21
Carlotta English 21
Ethel Cannon 22
Dorothy Dafforn 15


Had a look at Ancestry trees. Arabella is down on 3 as Arabella Ethel. Note the Ethel she was related to and 1 she was working with.

Gladys and Doris arrived pre wedding, ??? the father. They do not appear in London births as Cato that I can see. Constance is Constance Lilian Cato 1910 Guildford on trees. The following are possibles.

Doris Florence Black 1905 Islington. Doris Mabel Black 1906 Hampstead

Gladys Black 1901 Paddington

1921 Canadian census Ethel still married, Arthur's new marriage 1920.

redoing this census re Annie

Name Ethel Cato
Gender Female
Marital Status Married
Age 40
Birth Year abt 1881
Birth Place England
Relation to Head of House Head
Father Birth Place England
Mother Birth Place England
Year of Immigration 1911
Racial or Tribal Origin English
Province or Territory Saskatchewan
District Moose Jaw
District Number 221
Sub-District Moose Jaw (City)
Sub-District Number 51
City, Town or Village Moose Jaw Ward 3
Section Number 333 Oxford W
Municipality Ward 3
Household Members
Name Age
Ethel Cato 40
Doris Cato 17
Annie Cato 11 ----- is this Constance???????
Marjorie Cato 6
Gladys Bull 21
Maxwell Bull 22
Douglas Bull 1
Clifford Bull 4/12

That Gladys died Det so discounted Doris.

First names(s) GLADYS
Last name CATO
Gender Female
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1902
Age 0
Death quarter 1
Death year 1902
District BERKHAMPSTEAD
County Hertfordshire
Volume 3A
Page 514
Country England
Record set England & Wales deaths 1837-2007
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Deaths & burials
Collections from Great Britain

Born last quarter 1901 died first quarter 1902