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Detail Report 5 Mar 2024 18:38

James Robertson born 22.SEP 1929 Scotland died on 07 FEB 1988 Queensland Australia

James was a Member to the 1st and 2nd battalion - Korea
17th Construction Squadron - Vietnam

married a Ida Mary ? unsure on Surname born 18 SEP 1932 died 22 Dec 2006

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 5 Mar 2024 19:07

Unless he is in anyone’s tree, it’s unlikely that anyone on here is related

Have you checked?

What are you actually hoping for?

Where in Scotland was the man born?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 5 Mar 2024 20:14

He was 59 when he died, according to his gravestone, so his birth must have been 1928, not 1929

Not sure about this statement - someone has been having too many ‘tinnies', methinks!!

Aged 59 years; Daughter of James Robertson and Catherine McNaught Cummings.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 5 Mar 2024 20:34

ROBERTSON
JAMES
CUMMINGS
CATHERINE MCNOU
1926
685 / 2 / 93
ST ANDREW (EDINBURGH)


ROBERTSON
JAMES
M
1928
685 / 2 / 320
ST ANDREW (EDINBURGH)

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 5 Mar 2024 21:29

??

Passenger list

First name(s) Jas M
State or territory Victoria
Last name Robertson
Country Australia
Gender Male
Destination place - country AUSTRALIA
Birth day 28
Destination country Australia
Birth month 6
Ship name Fairsky
Birth year 1928
Ship gross tonnage 15463
Marital status M
Ship owner or agent SITMAR LINE GENOA
Occupation Assembler window frame
Number of passengers 0
Departure day 30
Ship departure port SOUTHAMPTON
Departure month 7
Ship destination port Australia
Departure year 1960
Ship destination country Australia
Departure port Southampton
Record set Passenger Lists Leaving UK 1890-1960
Departure country England
Category Travel & migration
Entry struck out N
Subcategory Passenger Lists
Destination port Melbourne
Collections from Great Britain, England, Australasia
Destination Melbourne

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 5 Mar 2024 21:31

Was he married when he went to Australia?

With a Mary born 3.9.32
And 5 chikdren born between 1950 and 1957

Home address 2 Meadowside ,Eddlewood ,Hamilton ,Lanarkshire

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 5 Mar 2024 21:37

This looks like two of the children

ROBERTSON
ROBINA MUNGALL
F
1955
647 / 886
HAMILTON

And
ROBERTSON
HENRY
M
1957
647 / 1017
HAMILTON

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 5 Mar 2024 21:44

No second name on the man’s gravestone, or on his birth registration

Ida Mary is commemorated in the same cemetery

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 5 Mar 2024 21:55

Name Ida Mary Robertson
Gender Female
Birth Date 18 Sep 1932
Death Date 22 Dec 2006
Cemetery Mount Gravatt Cemetery and Crematorium
Burial or Cremation Place Mount Gravatt, Brisbane City, Queensland, Australia
Has Bio? N
URL
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/193696450/ida-mary-robertson

Ida Mary Robertson
in the Brisbane, Australia Burials and Cremations, 1831-2023
Brisbane, Australia Burials and Cremations, 1831-2023
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Detail Source
Name Ida Mary Robertson
Death Age 74
Birth Date 18 Sep 1932
Death Date 22 Dec 2006
Burial Date 24 Feb 2007
Burial Cemetery MT Gravatt Cemetery
Cemetery Plot CREMATORIUM-MEMORIAL-ROSE GARDEN - 9-28
Cremated

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 5 Mar 2024 22:05

OP’s post is merely a direct transcript of the gravestone. No idea what she is asking for………

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 5 Mar 2024 22:46

Marriage

ROBERTSON
JAMES MUNGALL
HENNIGAN
MARY O'D P
1950
647 / 26
HAMILTON

Birth
ROBERTSON
JAMES MUNGALL
M
1928
627 / 339
CAMBUSLANG
NO IMAGE

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 5 Mar 2024 22:50

The man’s parents were the ones who married in Edinburgh in 1926 as per info found on find-a-grave via Ancestry

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 6 Mar 2024 09:27

The family suggested by Shirley, featuring the middle name Mungall, is not the right one. Names and dates don't fit.

There is no marriage of a James Robertson to an Ida Mary in Scotland, England, or Wales.

It looks like they may have married in Australia.

The 17th Construction Squadron was in Vietnam in 1966-71.
https://vwma.org.au/explore/units/825

Assuming "1st and 2nd Battalion" means battalions of the Royal Australian Regiment, the 1st battalion was in Korea 1952-54 , and the 2nd battalion 1953-54.

So presumably James had emigrated before 1952..


ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 6 Mar 2024 09:47

Someone named Sean Leader has James on a private tree on Ancestry.
Per Sean's tree, James had a spouse and two sons.

Sean doesn't give James's wife's name in his tree.
However, apparently her parents were Arthur William Smith and Theresa Ellen McGuffe, who spent their whole lives in Queensland, married in 1929, and had several children.

Therefore, I assume James and Ida married in Australia.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 6 Mar 2024 10:14

Good info Argyll :-)

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 6 Mar 2024 10:16

Ida Mary is not buried with James

He is in an Anzac grave.

No other Robertsons with the same reference as Ida

??
First name(s) James
Destination place - country AUSTRALIA
Last name Robertson
Destination country Australia
Gender Male
Ship name Mooltan
Birth year 1929
Ship official number 79866
Age 22
Ship registered tonnage 20952
Age as transcribed 22
Ship master's title Captain
Occupation Farmworker
Ship master's first name J K
Departure day 6
Ship master's last name Peter
Departure month 6
Shipping line P. & O.
Departure year 1951
Number of passengers 1027
Departure port London
Ship departure port LONDON
Departure country England
Ship destination port Brisbane
Entry struck out N
Ship destination country Australia
Destination port Brisbane
Record set Passenger Lists Leaving UK 1890-1960
Destination Brisbane
Category Travel & migration
State or territory Queensland
Subcategory Passenger Lists
Country Australia

UK address: Smallholding, Sateford, EDINBURGH*******************************

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 6 Mar 2024 10:25

??

Name Ida Mary Robertson
Gender Female
Residence Date 1959
Street Address 1 Nola Flats, 63 Strand
Residence Place Townsville, Herbert, Queensland, Australia
Occupation Home Duties
Electoral Register Number 6794


Name Ida Mary Robertson
Death Age 74
Birth Date 18 Sep 1932
Death Date 22 Dec 2006
Burial Date 24 Feb 2007
Burial Cemetery MT Gravatt Cemetery
Cemetery Plot CREMATORIUM-MEMORIAL-ROSE GARDEN - 9-28

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 6 Mar 2024 10:32

Name Teresa E McGuffie
Marriage Date 1930***************NOT 1929 as per 'tree' on Ancestry
Marriage Place Sydney, New South Wales
Registration Date 1930
Registration Place Sydney, New South Wales, Australia
Spouse
Arthur W Smith
Registration Number 111

First name(s) Theresa Ellen
Mother's last name Dale
Last name McGuffie
State Queensland
Registration year 1908
Country Australia
Registration number 1909/004104
Record set Queensland Births 1829-1919
Birth date 11 Dec 1908
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Father's first name(s) Hugh
Subcategory Civil Births
Mother's first name(s) Sarah Jane

Name Theresa Ellen Smith
Maiden Name McGuffie
Gender Female
Birth Date 11 Dec 1908
Birth Place Queensland, Australia
Death Date 27 May 1980
Death Place Queensland, Australia
Cemetery Mount Gravatt Cemetery and Crematorium
Burial or Cremation Place Mount Gravatt, Brisbane City, Queensland, Australia
Father Hugh McGuffie
Mother Sarah Jane McGuffie
Spouse Arthur William Smith
Children Colin Lyle Smith


From find-a-grave

Family Members
Parents

Hugh McGuffie
1869–1916


Sarah Jane Dale McGuffie
1872–1912

Spouse

PRIVATE Arthur William "Tom" Smith
1900–1973 (m. 1930)

Siblings

Elizabeth McGuffie Slade
1896–1975


Sarah Jane McGuffie Moodie
1898–1983


James McGuffie
1900–1934


Mary Agnes McGuffie Tappenden
1902–1980


Catherine Isabella McGuffie
1904–1904


Iris Agnus McGuffie Fraser
1907–1985

Children

Colin Lyle Smith
unknown–1971
(Accidentally killed, aged 19)
Commemorated alongside his grandmother, Elizabeth

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 6 Mar 2024 11:17

Ancestry tree for Colin Lyle Smith has record of only one sibling

Rita Isabel Smith Perry
1933–1993
BIRTH 27 JAN 1933 • Mackay, Queensland, Australia
DEATH 29 AUG 1993 • Brisbane, Queensland, Australia

Aged 60 years; Date of Service - 1 Sept 1993. Buried with Colin Joseph Gleeson (first husband)

ADDED
A second Ancestry tree shows ONLY the same two children for Smith/McGuffie.

Jink20

Jink20 Report 6 Mar 2024 11:21

This may be of use to you if you do not have his service record:

Service records for more recent campaigns, including Korea, Malaya and Vietnam are still held by the Department of Defence. Records that are in the open access period can be obtained through the National Archives of Australia

https://reftracker.naa.gov.au/reft100.aspx?key=06PostWarDefRef