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Name: Harry Hawkins
Age in 1911: 14
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1897
Relation to Head: Son
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Smethwick, Staffordshire
Civil Parish: Smethwick
Country: England
Street Address: 1 Stoney Street, Smethwick
Marital status: Single
Occupation: steel Tube Worker
Registration District Number: 383
Sub-registration District: Smethwick
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Piece: 17961
Household Members:
Name Age
Thomas Hawkins 48
Emma Hawkins 48
George Hawkins 24
Albert Hawkins 23
Ellen Hawkins 22
William Hawkins 18
Charles Hawkins 17
Alice Hawkins 15
Harry Hawkins 14
Leonard Hawkins 13
Elsie Hawkins 11
Walter Hawkins 9
Rose Hawkins 7

Actual DoB for Harry Hawkins on 1939 register is 23rd June - Ancestry transcription posted above is wrong. There is a closed record immediately below Harry’s entry.

For their part, FMP have transcribed Harry’s surname as `HawkinGs’. I have submitted a correction

Same address as 1939 posted above

Name: Harry Hawkins
Gender: Male
Birth Date: abt 1897
Age: 19
Document Year: 1916
Residence Place: 1 Stony St, Smethwick
Regimental Number: 36119
Regiment Name: South Staffordshire Regiment
Form Title: Short Service Attestation
Number of Images: 15
Name Relation to Soldier
Harry Hawkins Self (Head)
Emma Hawkins Mother

Lilian Hawkins
Death Age: 84
Birth Date: 13 May 1907
Registration Date: Oct 1991
Registration District: Birmingham
Inferred County: West Midlands
Volume: 32
Page: 455

This looks like Lilly Rollins

88 Halford Street, Smethwick, Smethwick C.B., Staffordshire, England

Henry Rollins 11 Jun 1905 Male Annealer Non Ferrous Metals Gas Furnace Married 249 1
Lilian Hawkins (Rollins) 13 May 1907 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 249 2
The record for this person is officially closed.
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Joan L Gills (Rollins) 22 Nov 1930 Female At School Single 249 4
Ronald I Rollins 11 Sep 1935 Male Under School Age Single 249 5
Ref: RG101/5252I/019/3 Letter Code: OMBK

This could be Harry in1939

Says married but no family witty him

Harry Hawkins
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Birth Date: 21 Jun 1896
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 1 Stony Street
Residence Place: Smethwick, Staffordshire, England
Occupation: General labourer
Line Number: 41
Schedule Number: 154
Sub Schedule Number: 3
Enumeration District: OMBK
Borough: Smethwick
Registration district: 371 B. 1
Household Members Age
David W Guest
41
Rosetta Guest
36
Harry Hawkins 43

Have you found Harry on the 1937 register

Do you have his birth date or year


When Lilian remarried in 1952 was she a widow or divorced


The Harry who died in 1937 was aged 40: how does that tie with your Harry age

Plus would have thought if he died 1937 then Lilly would have remarried before the 50.s

The first wife re-married in 1951, but was already lving with Binley as his 'wife ' in 1939.

Do you know the actual DoB for Harry Hawkins?

Name: Harry Hawkins
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep 1920
Registration District: Kings Norton
Inferred County: Warwickshire
Spouse: Lilian G York
Volume Number: 6d
Page Number: 274

Where are you looking for BMD info?

Ignore other trees unless there is documented PROOF attached to the record.

Followed up with all information that was kindly sent to me, the problem we are having is regarding Harry Hawkins death year, we do know that he married twice first marriage Lillan Gertrude York in 1920 Kings Norton, 2nd marriage Lily Rollins 1950 Birmingham, but the problem we are having is that most trees that we have looked at are showing Harry Hawkins who married Lillan Gertrude York show his death in 1937 Cheadle. I find this strange as information past onto me from my mother was that she clearly remembered her nana Rollins Harry Hawkins second wife. We are thinking that death record for the Harry Hawkins 1937 Cheadle is not the Harry Hawkins that married Lillan Gertrude York, but the problem we are having is that we cant seem to find a death record for Harry Hawkins past 1950 the year he married Lily Rollins
Thanks Kelly

Thanks for all the information much appreciated i will follow up on this information

Lillian Gertrude Binley
Death Age: 71
Birth Date: 1899
Registration Date: Jan 1970
[Feb 1970]
[Mar 1970]
Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar
Registration District: Solihull
Inferred County: Warwickshire
Volume: 9c
Page: 2860

If beryl did marry Frederick Gibbs it was 1952

Marriages Mar 1952
Gibbs Frederick J Hawkins Smethwick 9b 1153
Hawkins Beryl Gibbs Smethwick 9b 1153


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Parents:

Marriages Sep 1883
GRAINGER Alice King's N. 6c 705
York James Edward King's N. 6c 705

Rose

Lilian in 1911:

Name: Lilian Gertrude York
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1911
Event Place: Smethwick, Worcestershire, England, United Kingdom
County: Worcestershire
Parish: Smethwick
Sub-District: Smethwick
Sub-District Number: 4
District Number: 383
Enumeration District: 32
Registration District: Kings Norton
Sex: Female
Age: 11
Marital Status: Single
Marital Status (Original): SINGLE
Occupation: SCHOOL
Number in Family: 4
Birth Year (Estimated): 1900
Birthplace: Smethwick, Staffordshire
Relationship to Head of Household: Daughter
Schedule Type: 47
Page Number: 1
Registration Number: RG14
Piece/Folio: 93
Affiliate Record Identifier: GBC/1911/RG14/17974/0093/4


Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
Alice York Head F 47 Bilston, Staffordshire
Phoebe E York Daughter F 19 Smethwick, Staffordshire
William Arthur York Son M 14 Smethwick, Staffordshire
Lilian Gertrude York Daughter F 11 Smethwick, Staffordshire



Rose

ArgyllGran,

Thomas Harry died a few months later.

Rose

??? Another child

HAWKINS, THOMAS HARRY mmn YORK
GRO Reference: 1920 D Quarter in KINGS NORTON Volume 06D Page 335

Do you have Harry and Lilian's marriage cert, to see what his father's name was, and also his age and occupation?

There's a child born 1934 who is registered under Binley and Hawkins, so she was with him then.

Another child born in 1938 too.

Rose