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Unknown

Unknown Report 28 Aug 2019 18:30

father frederick John fisher

Rambling

Rambling Report 28 Aug 2019 18:40

Hi you didn't have to remove the whole of your post just the full birth date of the living person.

You mentioned a Frederick who married Tubb, is it likely to be this one?

Marriages Jun 1884 (>99%)

FISHER Fred Kensington 1a 101
Tubb Gertrude Elizabeth Kensington 1a 101

Do need a little more info to be able to help.

malyon

malyon Report 28 Aug 2019 18:40

are you looking for your father

Rambling

Rambling Report 28 Aug 2019 18:41

This is the possible birth of a Frederick to a mother with maiden name Tubb

First name(s) FREDERICK
Last name FISHER
Birth year 1885
Birth quarter 2
Registration month -
Mother's maiden name Tubb
District Winchester
County Hampshire
Country England
Volume 2C
Page 105
Record set England & Wales Births 1837-2006
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Civil Births
Collections from Great Britain, England

Rambling

Rambling Report 28 Aug 2019 18:51

Gertrude elizabeth Tubb was born Hampshire which you mentioned i think?

Rambling

Rambling Report 28 Aug 2019 18:54

So 1891 has been mistranscribed it is Frederick J on image

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census
South View, St Faith, Winchester, Hampshire, England

Fred Fisher Head Married Male 37 1854 Soldier ? Brigade London, Middlesex, England
Gertrude Fisher Wife Married Female 31 1860 - Hampshire, England
Frederick F Fisher Son - Male 6 1885 Scholar Hampshire, England <<<<<<
Francis H Fisher Son - Male 3 1888 Scholar Hampshire, England
Ida K Fisher Daughter - Female 1 1890 - Hampshire, England
Mary Lord Visitor Single Female 36 1855 Living On Own Means Lancashire, England

Rambling

Rambling Report 28 Aug 2019 20:12

1911 Census For England & Wales
Houghton, Hampshire, England


Sarah Ann Tubbs Head Single Female 53 1858 None Broughton Hants
Frederick John Fisher Son In Law Married Male 26 1885 Shunter Winchester Hants
Emily Fisher Daughter In Law Married Female 24 1887 - London Middlesex
Ida Kathleen Fisher Daughter Single Female 21 1890 Domestic Servant Winchester Hants
Edith Fisher Granddaughter - Female 1 1910 - Hendon Middlesex

Rambling

Rambling Report 28 Aug 2019 20:13

Frederick J and Emily are in Essex on the 1939 , with 2 closed records

Can't help without more info there is another Frederick J possibly born to the above couple in 1920.

Unknown

Unknown Report 28 Aug 2019 20:44

hi all I know is dad born in London poss Camden died 2017 Frederick John fisher dob 17/03/1920 or 30 grandad born in Hampshire died in south ockendon Frederick John fisher married a tubb my friend is Alan Fisher born in Hainault

Rambling

Rambling Report 28 Aug 2019 22:11

This is the birth I assumed was to Frederick John and Emily, the birth cert would confirm or eliminate whether it's the right one.

Births Mar 1920 (>99%)

Fisher Frederick J Williams Pancras 1b 346

Rambling

Rambling Report 28 Aug 2019 22:18

Marriage of Alan's parents probably.
Marriages Jun 1942 (>99%)

Day Ellen J Fisher Romford 4a 1492
Fisher Frederick J Day Romford 4a 1492

Rambling

Rambling Report 28 Aug 2019 22:18

Marriage of Alan's parents probably.
Marriages Jun 1942 (>99%)

Day Ellen J Fisher Romford 4a 1492
Fisher Frederick J Day Romford 4a 1492

Rambling

Rambling Report 28 Aug 2019 22:19

So that seems correct though Alan would need to buy certs to confirm.

Unknown

Unknown Report 29 Aug 2019 11:05

thank you everybody

Unknown

Unknown Report 29 Aug 2019 11:16

just found out Aland dad was born 17 03 1920 his wife Alans mother was Ellen Jenny day the grandmother was not tubb Williams thank you for all your help

Unknown

Unknown Report 29 Aug 2019 11:25

Alans mum and dad married 03 05 1942

greyghost

greyghost Report 29 Aug 2019 12:24

Rambling posted the marriage of Frederick J Fisher to Ellen J Day earlier (1942 not 1952) -

Marriage of Alan's parents probably.
Marriages Jun 1942 (>99%)

Day Ellen J Fisher Romford 4a 1492
Fisher Frederick J Day Romford 4a 1492

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Possible birth of Frederick John Fisher - also posted by Rambling earlier
(Pancras RD covered Camden)

Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page
Births Mar 1920 (>99%)
Fisher Frederick J Williams Pancras 1b 346

greyghost

greyghost Report 29 Aug 2019 12:42

she linked the 1920 birth to this family

1911 Census For England & Wales
Houghton, Hampshire, England

Sarah Ann Tubbs Head Single Female 53 1858 None Broughton Hants
Frederick John Fisher Son In Law Married Male 26 1885 Shunter Winchester Hants
Emily Fisher Daughter In Law Married Female 24 1887 - London Middlesex
Ida Kathleen Fisher Daughter Single Female 21 1890 Domestic Servant Winchester Hants
Edith Fisher Granddaughter - Female 1 1910 - Hendon Middlesex

and said - there is another Frederick J possibly born to the above couple in 1920.

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Edith Emily's birth shows mmn Williams
FISHER, EDITH EMILY WILLIAMS
GRO Reference: 1909 D Quarter in HENDON Volume 03A Page 275

greyghost

greyghost Report 29 Aug 2019 12:52

And then Frederick b c1885 to this family -

So 1891 has been mistranscribed it is Frederick J on image

1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census
South View, St Faith, Winchester, Hampshire, England

Fred Fisher Head Married Male 37 1854 Soldier ? Brigade London, Middlesex, England
Gertrude Fisher Wife Married Female 31 1860 - Hampshire, England
Frederick F Fisher Son - Male 6 1885 Scholar Hampshire, England 99%)

That ? for occupation is the Rifle Brigade

FISHER Fred Kensington 1a 101
Tubb Gertrude Elizabeth Kensington 1a 101

which takes you back to Alan's great grandfather b c1854

you will need birth certificates to confirm parents names and marriage certs to confirm marriage and give you a Father's name and occupation

greyghost

greyghost Report 29 Aug 2019 12:56

If the above are all correct then this is the marriage of Fred Fisher and Gertrude Tubb
(image available on Ancestry)
View London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1932

Name: Gertrude Elizabeth Tubb
Gender: Female
Marriage Age: 26
Record Type: Marriage
Birth Date: abt 1858
Marriage Date: 14 May 1884
Marriage Place: St Mark, Notting Hill, Kensington and Chelsea, England
Father: Henry Thomas Tubb
Spouse: Fred Fisher
Register Type: Parish Register

from the image -
Fred 32, Bachelor and a Blacksmith, Father Thomas Fisher a Stone Mason
Gertrude Elizabeth 26 Spinster, Father Henry Thomas Tubb a Gardener
Both of 167 Clarendon Road at time of marriage.
Witnesses - Charles Tubb and Eliza Fisher