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I AM LOOKING FOR A MARRIAGE THAT SOMEHOW DOESN'T SEEM TO HAVE TAKEN PLACE BETWEEN MY HUBBYS GT GRANDDAD X 3 AND HIS GT GRANDMA X 3

HIS NAME IS JOHN BLACKBURN AND HERS IS ELIZABETH
????????

I HAVE FOUND THEIR GRAVES AND THEIR D.O.D ETC BUT CANNOT FIND THEIR FLAMING MARRIAGE ..... LOL

SHE WAS BORN IN 1826 / 1827 IN BARKISLAND - HALIFAX AND HE WAS BORN IN SOYLAND - HALIFAX

THEIR FIRST CHILD WAS BORN IN 1845 ........ HE APPEARS TO HAVE BEEN MARRIED PREVIOUSLY AND HIS FIRST WIFE SEEMS TO HAVE DIED IN AND AROUND 1849 SHE WAS CALLED MARY ANN .........

I AM AT A TOTAL LOSS NOW ......... HELP .............

IS IT ME THAT IS MISSING IT ?????????

PROBABLY XXXXXXXXXXXX LOL :-)))

Where were they living in the 1851 census?

bit confused with your dates/years

THEIR FIRST CHILD WAS BORN IN 1845 ........ HE APPEARS TO HAVE BEEN MARRIED PREVIOUSLY AND HIS FIRST WIFE SEEMS TO HAVE DIED IN AND AROUND 1849 SHE WAS CALLED MARY ANN

1st wife died 4 years after he had a child with 2nd wife? is that right?

in the 1841 census he was with his first wife Mary and their is no sign of him in the 1851 census ... Elizabeth and John do not appear to have had any residence until 1861 and then they had a house on wharf street in sowerby bridge .......
I reckon the first wife and him split prior to her death

when was he born?

can you just confirm that the 1845 child was born to the second wife, 4 years before 1st wife died?

Did the first wife actually die? If she didn't actually die then that would explain why you can't find a marriage.

bit co-incedental - this bloke in 1851 in sowerby bridge?? NOT YOURS _ SEE BELOW _ FOUND 1851

Name: John Blackburn
Age: 46
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1805
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Sarah
Gender: Male
Where born: Soyland, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Warley
Town: Sowerby Bridge
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England


Registration district: Halifax
Sub-registration district: Sowerby
ED, institution, or vessel: 3a
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 115
Household Members: Name Age

John Blackburn 46
Sarah Blackburn 37 Born Norland
Caroline Hoyle 13 <<Stepdaughter

what is your blokes occ?

( this couple live in Wharf St too -No 11)

Marriages Jun 1849
Blackburn John Halifax 22 147
Hoyle Sarah Halifax 22 147

was you or are you expecting to find second marriage in Halifax,,,,,,,

,,,,what gives you cause/proof to think he was married before,??

Could this be them? (two options for Elizabeth and John seems to be duplicated)

Jun qtr 1845 Halifax vol 22 pg 144

>>Elizabeth Bairstow
Samuel Bairstow
>>John Blackburn
>>John Blackburn
John Brear
Tommy Gill
Nellie Milnes
Eli Smith
Harriet Whiteley
>>Elizabeth Widdop

Or there's this . . .

Dec qtr 1845 Halifax vol 22 pg 159

Jane Beaumont
>>John Blackburn
Jonas Clayton
William Dunford
Hannah Rangeley
Hannah Rangley
Eliza Ripley
Samuel Schofield
Elizabeth Smith

think this is the 1861

Name: Rebecah Blackburn
Age: 16
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Female
Where born: Soyland, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Warley
Town: Sowerby Bridge
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England


Registration district: Halifax
Sub-registration district: Sowerby
ED, institution, or vessel: 1
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 66
Household Members: Name Age
Amey Blackburn 9 Mo
Elizabeth Blackburn 35
James Blackburn 11
John Blackburn 50
Rebecah Blackburn 16


who does rebecah belong to him, her or them?
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them! 1851


1851 England Census
about Rebecca Blackham
Name: Rebecca Blackham
Age: 6
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1845
Relation: Daughter
Father's Name: John
Mother's Name: Elizabeth
Gender: Female
Where born: Soyland, Yorkshire, England

Civil Parish: Soyland
County/Island: Yorkshire
Country: England

Registration district: Halifax
Sub-registration district: Elland
ED, institution, or vessel: 3c
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 10
Household Members: Name Age
Elizabeth Blackham 34 born Barkisland, Yorkshire,
James Blackham 2
John Blackham 40
Rebecca Blackham 6

are you still about or have you gone?

Hi Minnie :)

There was a thread up from a TJ earlier on General, If it is one of the same it is TJs birthday today and they are not available this evening because of that.

Hope this helps

Colin :):)

OK - havent found the marriage, but found 1851
Thanks

hope TJ will be back today

Morning everyone

The reason I think that he was married before is because of the 1841 census listing him with Mary and two children Thomas born c1832 and Henry born 1840 (soyland is not a very big place) and then there is a gap before the next child is born in 1845 and John is Listed with another woman - but there is no wonder i couldn't find them in the 1851 census if they were listed under the name of BLACKHAM - tha nx for that Minnie - they are the one and same.

I found john's Baptism in the Parish Register (records held in the Library) but again I looked for the marriage to ELIZBETH and found NOTHING -

Maybe it is me that is a bit thick eh????

Thanx for all your help everyone I really appreciate it

xxxxxxxx:-)))

caan you rememeber the RG numberof 1841 that was yours - as you can see from the wrong 1851 that I found there is a nother bloke-same name - born Soyland

Blowed if i can pick out the right 1841

Class HO107 Piece 1304 Book 13

ok ( thanks)

What makes that one yours?

Ok Minnie

Piece 1302 Bk 7 lists him as being in Ovenden which is about 10 miles + away from Soyland

Piece 1303 Bk 16 lists him as being in Rastrick which is about 20 miles away from Soyland

Family history Line appears to have stayed in and around the Ripponden / Sowerby Bride area ( approx 2 miles away from Soyland) after making enquiries in and around that area the Ripponden Church St Bartholomews is the parent church for Barkisland and Soyland ....

Both Elizabeths and Johns Graves are in Sowerby Bridge Cemetery in a family plot - both James and Rebecca were laid to rest in this family plot too ......

In 1861 census there is another child AMEY who was born in 1860 accirding to the census of 1861 - but she is not in the family plot or mentioned again ..........in fact to be honest she has disappeared off the face of the earth !!!!!!!!! lol