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Tina Marie,

I so hope you feel better now. Im really sad you experienced this. It must have shaken you up so badly,


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Caz xxxxx

But where to Brian, is there anywhere that is really safe or unaffected by this selfcentred culture ?
Lizx

British society has been on a downward spiral for years and is now probably irredeemable.

Traditional values have been extinguished on the altar of multiculturalism.

Police numbers have not kept pace with the increase in the number of louts and targets have distorted law enforcement to concentrate on ticking boxes and filling in the paperwork.

I have recommended my daughter to emigrate.

I am sad your evening was so bad, and glad you weren't hurt, Tina.

My son told me off the other day when we were out cos I ticked off a girl who let a door slam in my face, he said 'Mum you can't do that anymore! They might have a gang of mates who will go for you.', fgs, I am a pensioner, do these people have any respect for anyone or anything? Here in Norwich, the streets around the nightclub area heave with youngsters, girls scantily clad, lads scuffling with one another or worse, and the girls join in, it is awful. I always worry about my son altho he is fairly sensible but is the kind who would help someone out and get hurt himself.
A local comedian and columnist in our local paper got beaten up the other night, not long before Christmas, after he left the theatre where he had done a show, he ended up with a fractured skull, a broken arm, possibly fractured nose, blood filled sinus cavity and numerous cuts and grazes. It was feared he would lose the sight in one eye but it is ok now. Similar injuries to the young lad David I know who was beaten up in September for no reason. (Incidentally he seems to be ok now and is with a foster family)
I would think twice about walking round the city now, so sad as I used to feel very safe.


Maybe we should all join the Take a Break Mum's Army, I have mentioned it before. If enough people join up, maybe there would be some action taken by the government, and not stupid punishments either.
Lizx

Tina, you were right to get out when you did and not confront him. I've just heard that a 18 year old lad was stabbed to death after getting off a night bus in London in the early hours

It's too late to reclaim the streets or anything else Sheila, the lunatics (do-gooders and PC brigade), now run the asylum. This is exactly what caused the downfall of the Roman Empire - now its our turn, we are already the thug capital of Europe and things can only get worse.

In the 19th century a great social reformer, John Stuart Mill, stated that whatever decision is made in politics nationally and locally we should always go down the path of "the greatest good for the greatest number".

That has now been forgotten and it is the individual who is most important. For "Human Rights" read "Individual Rights", the individual now matters more than society as a whole.

And it is the road to ruin for this nation that I once loved.

Oh you poor thing

Hope you are ok

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I have to say that I've never encountered any trouble in Bath when we go in occasionally to theatre or for a meal - we don't hang around but I think because it's a touristy place it doesn't have a bad reputation. I would, however, think twice about going into Trowbridge at night (not that there is anything that would appeal to me anyway...). Perhaps it's time that the 'ordinary folk' reclaimed the streets - any ideas?

That's absolutely terrible Tina
I'm glad your ok-I live near a big city but would never go near it on New Years eve.
Stay where you are next year-infact I'm going to wales next year to be cut off from everything.
Happy New Year anyway, sorry it was a bad start.
catherine
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Ann, I think it was okay in general until the late 1980's hmmm around about the time the schools were banned from using corporal punishment. I was a policeman for a short time in the late 1970's early 80's before I joined the Navy and even on Friday and Saturday nights fights and violence were not that frequent, now its a different story and even early evenings mean drunken brawls and wanton vandalisim.

Sorry your evening was spoilt Tina. we wont even go into Gloucester in the evenings these days because of drunken males and females.

Cathy, When i was in my teens we were often in Portsmouth or Southsea in the evenings and there was never any trouble (50s), so sad that it has become a no go area. Why the authorities have allowed this situation to develop I don't know, it is definitely mob rule.

Ann
Glos

Hello Colin,

I agree with you, not confined to Big cities at all.

I don't go out often and it's some thing I have only just experienced, but I believe it's just how it is in all parts of the country now.

We had a parade of shops in the village I used to live in. Parking was in front of these shops and it was a case of reversing out onto the road to drive off... I have had 11 - 12 year old children refusing to move from the back of my car so I can't drive off.
I avoided going there in the end as the intimidation was too great to bear.

Tina x

Tina, although I'm really sorry that you had such an awful time last night, I don't think its a problem confined to big cities, I live in a relatively small midland market town and police cars were screaming past our house at regular intervals last night from about 8pm onwards. even when i lived in west Cornwall there was often violence in little places such as Looe and Newlyn.
I worked at the airport during the summer and one of the airport police officers said to me ''do you know, every incident we get called to involves an obnoxious Brit''....Makes you proud to be British doesn't it?

Hello Tina,

Firstly I am glad you weren't seriously hurt. It's a horrible situation to be in.

When we see a group of youths nowadays we take avoiding action,how ridiculous at our age that we are stopped from walking where we choose to.

The town centres have been taken over by these mindless thugs who have no concept of responsibility or respect for other people or property.

When the question has arisen on these boards about leaving the UK I have always stated that I would leave if we could make appropriate arrangements for C or take her with us. We spend 8 - 10 weeks abroad each year and visit different countries. The only drunken yobs we see are from the UK which is hugely embarassing. I admit it's rare to see them because their choice of resort isn't the same as ours (we like peace and quiet!).

I hate the way the UK is now and despair that there will ever be a turnaround. I haven't lived in London full time for about 35 years. I used to feel so comfortable in the East End but not any more. We chose Wales 25 years ago (to give the children a non materialistic upbringing) but it has changed here too.

When ambulance drivers cannot leave their vehicles to attend to the injured for fear of being attacked themselves it really does sum up our society.

You enjoy nights out locally from now on and stay safe.

That's my first moan for 2008 so I'll shut up now.

Happy New Year everyone.

Sue x

Its Very sad that you had to put up with that sort of behaviour Tina.But our ??.Country has now become the "Cesspit" of the world through various Political Ambitions of MPs.of all Parties.Its time it was stopped.**M**.

tina marie i really hope your ok, im defitnatly country now lots of love and hugs to you xxxxxx

That is what i said. We are all carers by profession and i think that took over really but it could have gone oh so wrong. It makes me so frightend for my children as they get older but what can you do. Although my eldest son is 16 and he will not go out after dark which is a blessing really. I live in Portsmouth and it can be a very scary place.
Cathy

Oh Cathy, how frightening for them.
The scarey thing is, by getting involved in something as humanitarian as that, you are never sure if there will be repercussions.

Hi Tina
So sorry to hear about your evening and am glad that you were'nt more seriously hurt. Nothing today surprises me anymore as there is no law and order left in society. I was having friends come to me last night and on their way driving along the High St there was a man screaming staggering along covered in blood. No one stopped to help him apart from my friends. He had been battered about the head witha hammer. They tried to stem the blood and called an ambulance which took over twenty minutes to arrive.
They were so shaken up but said they had to help him.
Hope you have a lovely day

Cathy

Thank you all for your lovely replies.

It's a shame that we don't feel safe any more, but that's just how it is and it's not going to change.

Most of us can remember when we felt safe to go out after dark, but many of todays youth don't know any different, they are living it, cope with it and deal with it so there is no hope of it changing - it's just how it is now.

I know there were more decent people there last night than there were 'horrors' but the 'horrors' seem to have the monopoly.

Have a good day, we live and learn.

Tina x