General Chat

When your children were young did you:

Put them into prams in the garden, wrapped up +fly & cat nets, to sleep in the fresh air, whilst you were indoors.
Once fed, winded & changed, put them into cot/pram & if they cried, let them cry for a little while hoping that they would give up & go to sleep.
Feed your Babies 4hourly, no less than 3 & a half hours between feeds.
When preparing their milk/puree – add sugar/salt
Make up feeds for 24hrs & put into the fridge
Put butter on teething rusks
Wind them by patting their backs
Give their little ‘bots’ a bit of air – laying on a towel/blanket- on the floor with no nappy to kick
Put reins on Toddlers
Allow your children to watch TV for more than 1hour a day

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Well today I was told that all of the above ‘could’ be now classed as neglect/abuse!

Put them into prams in the garden, wrapped up +fly & cat nets, to sleep in the fresh air, whilst you were indoors. YES
Once fed, winded & changed, put them into cot/pram & if they cried, let them cry for a little while hoping that they would give up & go to sleep. YES
Feed your Babies 4hourly, no less than 3 & a half hours between feeds. YES
When preparing their milk/puree – add sugar/salt NO
Make up feeds for 24hrs & put into the fridge YES
Put butter on teething rusks YES
Wind them by patting their backs YES
Give their little ‘bots’ a bit of air – laying on a towel/blanket- on the floor with no nappy to kick YES
Put reins on Toddlers YES
Allow your children to watch TV for more than 1hour a day NO



Neglect or abuse??? How ridiculous..how could any of those things be termed abuse? OMG what is this world coming to?

If you watch that programme of the 3 woman advocating their own style of parenting....there is one who instructs you to leave your baby to cry in the garden.

Not for a little while though....until the next feed in 4 hours time. All day every day.

She also advocates you only have 10mins cuddle time a day....no more than 10mins.

I think it's barbaric.

Sue
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Yes that is clearly too long to leave a baby crying, but to let them have a bit of a scream once a day is fine, good for them...it doesn't mean something is wrong, but they are learning to use their little lungs.

Most babies like a good scream in the afternoon or evening...you can tell if is more than just exercising the lungs.

I understand what you are saying...but there are some who suggest you leave them to cry until their next next feed in 4 hr time. All day and all night...without any contact.

Sue
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edited to add...I've never done this to my children....but this is only my own style of parenting. People are different.

Nooo would never do that

Put them into prams in the garden, wrapped up +fly & cat nets, to sleep in the fresh air, whilst you were indoors. YES

Once fed, winded & changed, put them into cot/pram & if they cried, let them cry for a little while hoping that they would give up & go to sleep. NO

Feed your Babies 4hourly, no less than 3 & a half hours between feeds. NO - my boobs hurt too much!!

When preparing their milk/puree – add sugar/salt N/A - Breast fed. But the hospital took one baby away and fed her water & sugar against my wishes *could I sue?*

Make up feeds for 24hrs & put into the fridge N/A
Put butter on teething rusks NO
Wind them by patting their backs YES - How are you meant to do it?

Give their little ‘bots’ a bit of air – laying on a towel/blanket- on the floor with no nappy to kick YES and out in the garden. They continued to strip off until they were about 5 - because they enjoyed it!!!

Put reins on Toddlers YES - it meant they could get out of the pushchair in town centres and walk without getting lost

Allow your children to watch TV for more than 1hour a day. NO didn't have a TV until they were 3 & 6

What organisation has come up with this?
My other crimes were:
Drinking a bottle of stout every evening whilst pregnant and whilst breast feeding them - doctors orders :o)
Breast feeding them in bed - didn't manage to kill either of them.
Had open fires
Let them near our ducks,and pick up worms etc from the garden.
They drank unpasteurised milk
Played in hay bales
Allowed them to play in the garden, where they would strip off and cover themselves in mud.
I also made them walk one and a half miles to and from school, I very selfishly didn't go and buy a 4x4 for the purpose.

Strangely, at 24 and 27, they are healthy, don't have asthma, aren't overweight and have no fillings!!

Where did I go wrong??????

maggie

I'm not a granny yet (thank goodness)

But I did most of these things with my 2 children (19 & 9)

Never did them any harm

Even used egg white to ease the nappy rash on there "bot"

Was amazed recentlt when the mother of my great neice told me that you cant do these things now.


Jan x

The world's gone mad - my two now 41 & 38 so the old-fahioned way has worked for them !! and I have a granddaughter. Jx

We used to have measles parties to make sure all the kids got them ! Our doctor told mum off for keeping me too clean.The girl I sat next to in class wore a body brace after Polio.
Greatest invention ever... CALPOL!



Bad Mother!!!

I remember measles and chickenpox parties too!


A happy kid is a mucky kid is what my mum always said...

She still made sure I washed and cleaned me teeth every day, and had a bath before bed.

I was always up a tree or on my bike somewhere, my legs were covered in cuts and bruises, clothes would be patched, and I used to go to the shop to buy my dad his fags (spent the change on sweets), had to wait until Christmas or Birthday for new toys, and sometimes got sent to bed with no tea for being naughty.

OMG wasn't I ill treated!

No wonder Social Services are overworked!!
They'd be better off, instead of chastising parents who put their babies out in the garden, looking for children that never go out and asking themselves why?

maggie

Well Carol, I was one of the neglectful parents......brought my kids up and read Dr. Spock.....they were bathed, fed and put down for the night when babies.......tea, play with Dad, baths and bed early when they were young......and everything else on your list....

I am sorry to say that I have brought up 3 kids who are all hard working loving and down to earth sensible people, and bringing up their children successfully too.......mind you my DiL who is not due for 10 weeks yet, said about putting the babies out in the fresh air.....and I said yes, I did, fresh air knocked them out......so fresh air does harm now....

I also used to blend down our meals, including roast dinners and put them in tupperware little dishes and froze them.......poor little things.....they all have healthy appetites and are the correct weight......oh dear.....why is it we always get things wrong.....

When i had my kids,my old dad always said does everyone feel hungry at the same time?Feed your child when it cries for food.You will have a happy child.Mine were always wrapped up outside.Seemed to make them hungrier lol annie

I'll tell you something......I have recently had two new grandbabies, and another due soon......we went into Mammas and Pappas because we always buy a pram for the first grandchild of each child.....tradition in our family....

I could not believe the range, or the prices of stuff now......I liked the look of a wardrobe and it was £600.....I thought it was for the cot, chest of drawers and rocking chair as well....but no....

The shop was quite full, so there must be money around....my son showed me a tiny brown leather blouson jacket......£80.....I could go on....but you get the drift....

I am glad I was born when I was, MFI was good enough for my kids wardrobes, and Mothercare was expensive enough for me......

I did my NNEB in the late 1960’s, at a Residential Nursery.
Unless they were ill or the weather was bad, all of the babies spent their morning sleeping outside in their prams – if they cried they would be picked up, winded & changed if necessary. If the weather was bad they were in their cots (+ warm cardigan) windows wide open. In the afternoons they were on ‘The Kickers’, (large padded mats with a terry towelling cover)
We added half a teaspoonful of sugar to each bottle of formula – as per instructions on tin
All bottles of formula were made up for 24hrs by the night staff & left labelled in the milk fridge.
Purees were whatever was on the menu for everyone that day – salt was added by the cook
Our cook cut loaves into rusks & baked them in the bottom of the aga; we would butter the tips before giving to the baby.

Every Mother has her own way of caring for her baby – those TV programmes (Super Nanny etc), in my opinion are more likely to make mothers feel inadequate, than to give them any help!

I have never watched this new one, but it was this that we were discussing when I was told that many of the things I have done to a couple of generations of babies,my own & those I have been Nanny to, could be now classed as neglect/abuse!

I was also told, by a (childless) Health Visitor, that
'Babies do not need winding, they can bring up their own wind!'

I have never bought a babys wind up by patting the back.it gives them hic ups Annie

Carole, I started NNEB training in the '70's and gave up because they were a bit 'This is is the way - any other way is wrong' for me. I had worked w'th special needs children whilst at school and asked awkward questions like 'How do you get chocolate off flock wallpaper' - the answer was 'An NNEB Nanny would never allow a child to get into such a situation' . It went on like this, like the child couldn't get dirty, so I left and had 2 very dirty children who had baths every night and were very happy.
I looked at books with my 2 - Dr Spock, Dr Jolly and Penelope Leach. Any problem, I would look at all 3 books and decide which one I would follow for that situation. Penelope Leach usually won!! LOL
maggie

I know I was a lot fitter too because I used to walk to and fro the town, up and down steep hills, with the baby in the pram and l8month old daughter in the pram seat on top......to think of me doing that now....

My DiL who has the new baby and two daughters, 2 and 4 1/2....brings them up much the same as we used to.....they walk to school, plenty of fresh air but too much watching CBeebies etc......but I keep my mouth shut because I don't know it all.....