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Dont buy S&N products or use their websites

Beth its not about what you or I would do, the census cd makers would not give any one a lift, going that way or not, a bit like a taxi driver would not, its there living, its how they make there money.

No-one has answered the question someone put on here, Who are S & N.

A well Known Census Cd Maker, S & N are one of a number of companies doing this, put S & N census cds in Google and you will find all you want to know

I've had a few free lifts from taxi drivers too - but maybe they had an ulterior motive. (Many years ago one driver used to park up and wait for me) Beth :0

Dancer so sorry didnt see your reply, thank you i'm gonna check it out lol Luv JoJo xx

S&N are the company but thegenealogist.co.uk is the site.

how do they know if u r using s and n disc`s anyway,,,or r these people saying when offering look ups they r using s and n discs derek

Hi Derek, To answer YOUR particular question, when you purchase anything from S & N, they obviously have a record of your details .. especially e.mail etc. In these two cases ... mine and this latest person's, we actually do name indexing (I DID - NOT any more) for this company. The company can see how many times you log onto the website and use the subscriptions ( in this case, the Name Indexing) that you have earnt or paid for... and then if you OVER use your subscriptions, they start asking questions. The person who was suspended yesterday, has had to send a copy of all the names in the Family Tree - and S & N has compared them to the names that have been looked up on the Name Indexing site. The sad thing about this incident is that the person who has been suspended this time, has transcribed in excess of over 50 pieces from the census's ... this information is then sold at £10 per time for one disc. Making a very healthy profit from our hard work. In this instance, this person was using a Name Indexing facility that they had PAID to access at £45 per year and they aren't even complete ... Dancer x

Blimey! Have read all your replies and am mind blown. I must admit, I have been 'chary' of putting info anywhere on this site in case it was misused. I really only came into GR to find an adopted rellie - no success so far! However, I find all the threads very entertaining on this Board Thanks everyone1 Lily

S&N are a business and clearly aren't going to like it if people infringe their copyright and potentially damage their sales. It's the same reason Ancestry/GaleGroup got shirty when people posted passwords to use Ancestry for free: people won't buy what they can get for nothing. Of course the companies are going to track culprits down. However, I was under the impression that if A had the discs, then they could not offer a look-up, but they could respond to B's plea *as long as* the information was transcribed from the image by A, and no image of the census was passed on. Copyright exists on the format of the census, not the information contained therein. It seems people get caught two ways: the first is by using their real names on the boards, which are then checked against a subscription list; the second is, as Gary suggested, unusual usage patterns. I don't know if GR would have to surrender personal details if another company requested it, but probably 'yes' as it would relate to a legal matter.