General Chat

A celebrity is simply 'one who is widely known'. So, who turns these people into celebrities? The press, the public or a good marketing machine. Celebrity is something that a person cannot bring about for themselves, so 'pointless' is simply a matter of perspective. There must be plenty of people who enjoy reading/hearing about the escapades of others to warrant the press giving 'pointless' people such an airing and making them so widely known. I imagine that if you asked another group of people who is 'pointless' you'd get a different set of 'celebrities'. As for 'earning' anything, who gives the celebrities the money that others are so quick to tell them how to spend?

My take on this: 1. People who are famous for doing something are usually known as 'famous footballer' or 'lead singer' or 'charity campaigner' or 'model' or whatever. 2. The term 'celebrity' seems to cover those who aren't famous for anything other than being famous - because they have had sex with someone else who is famous or at least well-known, or because they've appeared on some reality tv show demonstrating their lack of social skill or suchlike. 3. Posh was in a successful girl group, but as her solo career isn't as successful, is now better known as wife of David Beckham. If she were not married to him, I think she would have sunk back into obscurity. 4. David Beckham is a not-bad footballer. 5. PoshnBecks is a well-known 'brand' and presumably sells lots of things, and makes money and contributes to the economy. 6. Therefore PoshnBecks are not 'pointless'. 7. But as there seems to be a need for celebrities generally - to appear on chat shows, do ads, open supermarkets and appear on front pages of magazines, then celebrities can't be said to be pointless. But I think watching them or reading about them is pointless. I've got better things to do with my time. nell

Im not saying that I actually like all the celebs mentioned, and I really do dislike this woman. <Vision of a pig comes to mind> I agree a person who has done something bad should not be allowed to wallow in any realm of glory in the spotlight. But the others dont warrent the title pointless. Even Jordan, despite of her once wild lifestyle sems to have changes somewhat. Ive given her a lot more respect since Ive seen what a great mum she is to her sick child. Elaine x

Sorry Elaine - got to add something else:) As disinterested as I am in the Beckhams, I have to say that one of the few 'celebrities' who stirs me to irritation is Rebecca Loos. It actually make me quite Mary Whitehouse-ish to see someone get paid to appear on telly who is famous for sh*gging someone else's partner and selling her story! What's that all about? Her family must be so proud.

Debby I find that I say things my parents said when I was younger. ...maybe we should start another thread on the subject such as 'Are we our parents ? ' Elaine x LOL !

well what a pointless list. a few comments. Victoria Beckham ? Yes, she's a complete waste of space, but it's the media's obsession with keeping her in the papers that has exaggerated her celebrity status. Jordan ? complete waste of space. Ditto for Jodie Marsh, Abi Titmuss etc I don't think however, that either David Beckham or Tony Blair should be in this list. Tony Blair is the Prime Minister of this country, and whether we think he's doing a good job of it or not, he's certainly not a 'pointless celebrity'. His wife on the other hand... As for David Beckham... yes, OK, his celebrity is exagerrated, and he does seem to enjoy that, but he's not the first footballer to be in that position (George Best ?), but at least he sets a fairly positive example to kids most of the time (apart from the sex scandals lol), you don't hear about him being involved in drink/drugs etc. I read today that he's about to open another soccer school. I also know from my links with amateur football that he's very well thought of at the clubs where he played as a child, and has helped those clubs out on several occasions. I don't really understand why being a successful sportsman is 'pointless' as some seem to think. He is as talented and successful, in his chosen field, as a musician, an author, an actor etc. It's a form of entertainment, which people enjoy, so why is he less worthy of celebrity ? well, that turned into a bit of a rant. sorry. lol

I spose with the amount of opinions we both have it had to happen eventually Roxanne! ;))

Aint it nice to have a civilised debate without any swords clashing, back biting, digging or nastiness. Thanks to everyone on this thread Elaine x

Blimey Roxanne - look at us agreeing with each other lol:))

Pat Maybe many do use it as a tax dodge giving cash to charities, but the Beckhams also give their time to those charitable cases, and have given a lot of their time and effort in helping individual cases. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Yes I do think they are extravagant, they spend their money on the daftest of things...but if you had money to burn, and had earned it, why not buy what you want. I certainly would... Elaine x

why the press have to continually pick on them i dont know, its like bullying or jealousy shes been a brave women victoria, and battled through the gossip, and davids a lovely guy,

Elaine,your Quote,90% of Celebrities were unknown before they were Famous,Sounds pretty logical to me.However,Who made and said they were 'Celebrities'?.and for what?.Beckhams a decent Footballer,but not all that good,except for marketing.The rest just 'Laugh their way to the Bank' curtesy of the Media and he great British Public. Hal.

Any Accountant will tell you that ALL very wealthy people give money to Charity, I am afraid the reason for that is NOT always because they really want to give their money away it's because its a Tax dodge. The vast amount of money gathers a load of interest more money more tax, so the more they give to Charity the more they save on the huge wealth that is left. Pat x

l'm with you on this Elaine - the Beckhams do alot of charity work & all sorts of good normal things that we don't hear about, its the papers that give them the bad name catching Victoria with funny facial expressions then saying she's mad or simular, they should leave them alone. Jordan should be number ONE - lol, but then l would'nt mind her £££££ for being who she is;~) jude sarf wales ;~)

Well I certainly don't think David Beckham or Jordan are pointless! Beckham is a superb footballer and as annoying as she is Jordan is a very successful businesswoman. She saw a niche in the market and has made millions of pounds from it... yes all she really does is get her boobs out but she has made a fortune from doing it... I think the men who pay to see her are the really stupid ones! Becx

Elaine, I disagree with your your statement that it is the public that make these people celebrities. In fact it is the media. I gave up buying 'newspapers' years ago because I was fed up with reading 'stories' about pointless people Jean x.

I think Abi Titmus is the most pointless,,empty headed,,,concieted,,,self obscessd thing around,,

Elaine They didn't call them 'Pointless human beings' it was 'Pointless Celebrities' very different. David Beckham is a talented Footballer of that there is no doubt, so he shouldn't be on the list, I certainly do not feel sorry for the Beckhams they do flaunt their money & put themselves out there so they are bound to get slated at some point. There are hundreds of footballers who just play football we don't hear about every little detail of their lives. Tony Blair is leader of the Labour Party whether people like it or not he is also the current Prime Minister so he is NOT just a celebrity. I don't know all the people listed as I don't watch television very often or read rag newspapers but if what Gwynne says is correct well they deserve to be listed as pointless and to me that includes the Royal family. Pat x

I agree with David. These should not be called Pointless People but Uninteresting People. I really do not see why so much Media Time and Space is filled with trivial things happening in the lives of people who have done nothing particularly interesting or useful. And as for the so-called 'Reality Shows', they are just a cheap way of filling TV Time Schedules for those who would rather watch life than live it.

David.. ...NO lmao ! She was Just an example. Im just a bit cross that the celebs dont deserve to be on the list. All of them must make some people happy though lol ! Over rated they may be, but pointless no.... E x