General Chat

Has he?

One of the questions put to Grant S this morning.

Don't know if it's true or not, but if it is then he should resign. I know you can travel for work but it's been suggested that this was a trip to have his son baptised.

Kath. x

I have no idea whether it's true either, Kath. But it was put forward that his partner, Carrie, went with him.

What fleetingly crossed my mind was if it is true was it designed to allow Boris to resign because he broke the rules, thereby giving him an 'out' from his post and his duties.

Passing the buck (poison chalice at the moment) to someone else!

I think he'd like a way out at the moment. Being Prime Minister hasn't turned out the way he expected.

However I don't think Downing Street would deny it if it was true - or would they????

Kath. x

Raab flew to the US - for trade talks. Why they couldn't do them over the internet is beyond me.
Unfortunately, Raab's bodyguard left his gun on the plane.

In February, Cameron's bodyguard left HIS gun on a plane too.

Their incompetence knows no bounds! :-D

I wonder if any of them could even lie straight in bed.

When Boris's possible trip (with Carrie) was mentioned this morning, it appeared to have been a 'jolly' so unconnected with work.

Back later - when we may have found out the truth.

I am not sure but he was at the service (It said in the DM) for battle of Britain and was in parliament on Friday. Think there was a virtual link up (zoom maybe on Saturday but he could have been anywhere doing that. However it could be just somebody in Italy trying to cause trouble who knows.

The story doesn't seem to be mentioned anywhere on the BBC so I think it may possibly have no foundation.

Kath. x

He was alleged to have gone on 11 September, and returned on 14th - so a week before the Service.

Didn't No.10 initially deny Cummings went to Barnard Castle?

Is Italy currently on the list of quarantine countries :-S

Kath, it was on BBC news this morning when the question was put to Grant S who hedged a bit (no outright denial but no confirmation either) so no one was any the wiser.

I got the impression that the inference was that the trip had been earlier so I have no idea whether it was taken during travel restrictions.

It was the first I had heard of it but I thought it was not right if such a trip had taken place during travel restrictions to Italy and bad form if it was true even though travel to Italy is allowed at the moment - not a good example to set to citizens under present circumstances and conditions.

Mischief-making or whistle-blowing! Who knows?

Also, since you mention DC, Maggie, last night the news showed him leaving No, 10, the camera following him a little way along the street. I wondered why as no questions were put to him. Now, I feel it could have been a lead-up, reminding viewers of his jaunt during lockdown - fresh in our minds when 'the Italian Job' was broken this morning. :-D

The mind works in mysterious ways. :-D

Mischief making as always, probably by the Brexit remainers who won't let go

Westminster Cathedral is where Boris's son was baptised and it has been confirmed he was in UK at his son baptism when he was supposed to be in Italy.

It is just the anti Boris crew s**t stirring again. :-D

I saw that, Pat, but when I watched it the BBC mentioned no dates when they spoke with Grant S about it. There have been at least three dates 'thrown about' by other people, so who knows?

Whether it be true or not, I feel that someone at the BBC has the bit between his teeth - much as they did with the Dom C debacle which, as Maggie pointed out, was categorically denied until it became it impossible to refute it.

As the saying goes, we are living through interesting times (and dangerous ones too) ..... but not, I feel, a time where we should throw out the need for transparency and accountability. I don't think it is too much to expect of any government, not just a Conservative one.

The dates I have seen were 11th to 14th September evening on the 11th and early morning the 14th.

I think I must be missing the point here :-0. If there were no travel restrictions or quarantine required for travellers to/from Italy during the period in question, does it really matter if Boris went to Italy :-S :-)

Well, it does seem a little inconsiderate to not bother appearing with the health experts employed by the Government, when they were outlining new Covid restrictions etc., especially as it now appears he was in Downing Street all the time, and the alleged trip was all a misunderstanding!

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/sep/21/from-scandal-to-pr-cock-up-how-the-boris-johnson-perugia-mystery-unravelled

Belle, no dates mentioned by the BBC when they asked Grant S about it so it could have been any time when it would have been frowned upon.

A few dates this month have been bandied about but my impression at the time was that it was earlier - else why question him?

My impression was that the news conference was purposely just held by the 'men of science', without any politician involved, to emphasise the seriousness of the situation that the country now finds itself in. With them telling the public that if we do not stem this situation what the awful outcome could be.

My understanding is that Boris will be heading a Cobra meeting today based on the information provided yesterday by the 'men is science' and addressing the Nation later.