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Planning permission needed advise please

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kandj

kandj Report 10 Oct 2013 22:58

Have you spoken to your Parish Councillor as such huge sheds would have to be agreed by the Parish Council...... perhaps you could find support this way?
Good Luck I would not be happy in your situation.

RolloTheRed

RolloTheRed Report 9 Oct 2013 23:22

the LHA won't give a t- a- unless (a) the rent isn't paid or (b) drug use / dealing at property

InspectorGreenPen

InspectorGreenPen Report 9 Oct 2013 20:14

If the property is a Council House, or part of a Social Housing Scheme, then either way there will be a tenancy agreement which will set out what can and can't be done with the property. Whoever the landlord is will usually be very interested if the tenancy agreement is breached.

If the tenancy agreement is silent as far as external sheds and other erections are concerned then a call to the local planning department will advise from a planning perspective. Whilst the detail can vary slightly by area, this is likely to be in line with the info posted by AnninGlos

RolloTheRed

RolloTheRed Report 9 Oct 2013 16:47

You will get absolutely nowhere with the council, fire brigade bureaucrats and so on and so forth. Your MP will either ignore your letter or side with the shedders. They just won't want to be drawn into a potentially messy situation which will polish nobody's CV.

If you are not prepared to take legal action yourself than just roll over and put up with it.

Hilary

Hilary Report 9 Oct 2013 16:07

If you still get no joy from your council, get in touch with you MP. Tell him what is going on & your concerns. You should be able to e-mail him/her. Good luck.
Hilary.

Annina

Annina Report 8 Oct 2013 18:50

If you think that it is a fire risk,I would have thought that the Fire Prevention Officer at your local fire station had some clout.

DazedConfused

DazedConfused Report 8 Oct 2013 13:53

I would suggest going back to the council and infer that you think they are renting it out. They will be along quick enough then to check it out.....

RolloTheRed

RolloTheRed Report 8 Oct 2013 12:57

You are claiming a civil right, access and amenity for your property.

Keep a careful record of all correspondence and telephone calls, take lots of photos preferably with a camera that autodates the pictures.

Take up the matter with the landlord ( LHA / council ) citing exactly the regulations which are being broken. Invite the landlord to a site meeting for inspection. Don't bother with the council they are not interested in enforcement in these cases.

Use one of those digital measures which can take the distance without you leaving yr property.

Be persistent. Keep an eye in case the wooden extension are used for persons to sleep in ( illegal ).

Make yr complaint to the landlord in writing.

After 90 days with no action ( almost certain ) file a case with the County Court for take down against the landlord, not the tenants. Use a solicitor. This should cost from £ 500-£ 1000. If yr claim is properly made then you will win with a court order for take down within 30 days and costs will be awared against the landlord.

Nothing will happen.

Warn the landlord in writing - solictor's letter best - that enforcement proceedings will be taken.

After 30 days go back to court and get a bailiff's order. Very likely the landlord will capitulate at this point.

There are bailiff's who will supervise a wrecking company to remove the shed(s). The bailiff will prevent the work of removal being interfered with and will ensure police attend. The bailiff will charge £ 70 approx all the rest will be charged to the landlord.

You will end up in the local paper, your shed neighbours will hate you and so will the council and the landlord. Other neighbours may be pleased but they won't provide any real help or support.

Alternative: put up with it.

JoyBoroAngel

JoyBoroAngel Report 8 Oct 2013 12:49

if its classed as a place of worship
they may not have to pay council tax on the property

AnninGlos

AnninGlos Report 8 Oct 2013 12:31

It is so easy for people of other cultures to shout racist when all it is is an argument about something affecting our way of life. I get very cross when authority (councils etc) don't do anything for fear of being called racist. When it comes to rules and regulations we should all be equal refardless of colour or origin.

kandj

kandj Report 8 Oct 2013 09:48

Good Luck with your enquiries regarding your new neighbours.

We encountered something similar when a young South African couple moved into the road. Their culture did not sit comfortably with our locality and we were all called "racists" by the two of them, when we are all nothing of the sort.

Several of us made written complaints about high fencing (made out of old rough pallets) but we found that we, who had lived together harmoniously for a great number of years were ignored and the Officials favoured the newcomers.

I wish you all the best in your quest to stand up for your rights and do sincerely hope that you are treated better than us and our friendly neighbours were.

The young couple no longer speak to anyone and I feel we are "invisible" not a nice feeling but it's their choice. We do have Polish people who rent two houses and are very pleasant and friendly and have happily fitted into our village life.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 7 Oct 2013 22:44

So its not one shed but two they have put up .

Would think the one close to your garage wall wouldnt be allowed that close because they arent giving you room for any maintenance of your property .

When we moved into this house in the 1960,s as a new build the back gardens had ranch style fences and one of the parts of the buying contract was we had to allow neighbours access to our garden in order for them to do maintenance to their fence and likewise we had right of access to the other neighbours garden to maintain ours.

The housing dept of the council should be willing to give you advice on the problem not fob you off saying its not their concern

Barbra

Barbra Report 7 Oct 2013 22:33

Hello just seen this your best to get in touch with cab .they have legal advisers on most things .take photos of the shed with you .hope you can get help Barbra

Bobtanian

Bobtanian Report 7 Oct 2013 19:42

Cant see building a possible mosque in a garden would be allowed...........

Sharron

Sharron Report 7 Oct 2013 18:31

My shed is 16'x8'. I asked an officer from the housing assoc to come and see what I was going to do which it would seem was more than I needed to do.

If it is within planning requirements they are happy for a shed to be built, especialy a well built one.

There are few regulations to prevent it being built but you might find they are in contravention of their tenancy if they sub-let the shed and probably other regulations.

Llamedos Pam

Llamedos Pam Report 7 Oct 2013 17:13

Oh dear just seen them putting sofas in one of the sheds

Andysmum

Andysmum Report 7 Oct 2013 16:51

Planning permission or not, they are contravening the Building Regulations.

I would ring the Council in the morning, speak to someone concerned with Building Regs and make a complaint.

Good Luck! :-( :-(

wisechild

wisechild Report 7 Oct 2013 16:50

If they are council tenents, they will have been given info about what they can & can´t do to the property & will have signed an agreement.
Prayer room my .......... ;-)

Llamedos Pam

Llamedos Pam Report 7 Oct 2013 16:39

Thanks so much everyone seems as they are so big and so very close to the house may require planning permission, although seems they have told another neighbour they are going to use it as a prayer rooms pam

RolloTheRed

RolloTheRed Report 7 Oct 2013 15:34

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