General Chat

"The holocaust" was not in any way the reason why the second world war was fought. Indeed the Nazi concentration camps started in 1932 and were in full swing by 1939. The UK government was as difficult as it could be in allowing Jewish people to escape to the UK though under pressure from the USA it allowed transit visas to the US. Given that Lord Halifax was in charge of foreign affairs and the German ambassador was accorded a quasi state funeral in London, 1936

http://secret-cities.com/2010/08/29/the-nazi-dog-memorial/)

that was hardly surprising.

It may come as a shock to many but the French government expected the UK to ally itself with the Third Reich right up to 1939 and the govt in exile never really gave up on the fear until Germany turned on its erstwhile ally, Russia.

Jewish communities were well entrenched with hardly any problems all over the middle east until the US inspired takeover of Palestine. Nearly all of the Israeli community in Israel are descended from US and European Yiddish speaking Jews rather than original rooted community. That is why they were forced to learn Hebrew rather than use Yiddish which is now nearly dead as a living language.

There are still powerful Jewish and Christian communities resident in some of the more tolerant Gulf states.

Thanks Choccy for link. :-)

I guess that unlike most people posting here I have worked with and know quite a lot of Coptic Christians from Egypt. They certainly consider themselves as la creme de la creme and can be a right pain in the wotsit. By Egyptians standards they are all well off and some extremely wealthy.

The similarities in growing up as a Christian in the Orthodox church with western Europe are near zero. In the case of the Orthodox Coptic Church in Egypt or the Orthodox Assyrian Church in Iraq it is zero.

Cheers Rollo - I agree with you one hundred per cent.

Thanks Rollo.

It is so upsetting when a child gets caught in adult ideologikcal arguments that they have no idea about. This goes for Jewish children caught in the holocaust, Muslim and Christian and all other children caught in crossfire in war zones.

It is so horrible when churches, mosques and synagogues get targetted - particularly when people are worshipping, praising and being happy inside. What would a 10 year old understand about Copts and Morsi and Muslim Brotherhood. Poor mite :-( :-( :-(

John, as Rollo said, comparisons can not be made and different societies have different priorities. A ten year old in Cairo will probably have a far greater understanding of the (admittedly) confusing situation than a ten year old in, say, the Rhondda.

I also doubt very much that there are many "worshipping, praising and being happy" inside the targetted mosques at the moment.

They were quite likely spending more time constructing barricades than attending to religious matters.
That is certainly how it appeared on the live television footage.

Try asking Boris.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/whodoyouthinkyouare/new-stories/boris-johnson/how-we-did-it_1.shtml

Dear All

Hello

Hope you are okay.


I am just glad I able to go to a place of worship, without harassment and threats.

Equally, if I choose not to attend that is fine too.


Rest in peace, little one. <3 and also rest to the those who give their lives for freedom.



Take gentle care
Sincere wishes
Elizabeth, EOS
xx

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