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yep he did.......someone early said did he marry in Scotland.?

Kay,
Alexander married in Plymouth in 1908.
Details are on his military docs dated 1914.

Alexander C Ryan as born 1881 in Maryhill Glasgow,,,,,,,,he isnt showing as ever marrying in Scotland........unless it was Gretna?but somehow doubt it ...

it must be this one he married.

***Beatrice Winifred Pickford *** bn 1884 E/Stonehouse,nr Plymouth 5b-341

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Love this programme BUT they make it seem so easy to find things out. I am having a real struggle with both my grandads army service in and before the WW1. Still I will keep on searching and enjoying the programme as well.lol. :-)

Shirley.... his name was Noel JANES ( think Sam changed her's to Janus)

Had a look at the early part Thanks Mau bit it still all seems a puzzle. Nan was Dolly and Dad was Noel BUT Noel who ??

cant see a Dorothy Ryan birth either and she looks too young to be the 1918 Ryan /Finkle birth

Hi Shirley for the episode try this link :-)


http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01m2b6r/Who_Do_You_Think_You_Are_Series_9_Samantha_Womack/

wish we had been able to record it but the lounge TV decided to pack in yerstday so had to watch it on the bedroom TV which I haven't got the hang of !! lol recording on. its done on a disc and I haven't tried to do it as yet :-|

without going into details there is a Ryan/Finkle birth in 1918 so would seem to be the scenario many of us have with the ancestors/family

I am going to watch it again too.... I want reminded on "exactly" what Sam's g/mother said about her parents.
From memory Sam's Gran didn't seem to know her dad too well, and remembers him as a rather sad man? Alexander died in 1943.
How old was his daughter?
I am guessing that she was born in the early 1930's
She is Sam's paternal grandmother and Sam's father was born in 1949!

The Finkles must have been wealthy to be travelling backwards and forwards during this time.

Thinking back to when Samantha was in New York,the researcher remarked that she hadn't really found anything about the GGrandmother except the 'name change'!.. not very satisfactory findings imho

Odd?
Cannot find them on a 1920 return, but can find Harry snr and Jessie in 1930
Harry snr Jessie and Harry junior can all be found saiiling FROM southhampton to New York in Apr 1929 but I cannot find them coming in?

Or maybe they didn't marry. That would explain why we were not shown a marriage cert. Perhaps he wasn't free to marry as Beatrice the first was still alive.

OR were they barking up the wrong tree???

This has happened to a lot of us at some time or other, just because it seems to be the right person (at first) doesn't mean that it IS the right person.

Anyone got access to USA census records after 1910?


Tess

Would like to have known what happened to the other Finkle children

This is one show where the 1 hour was not long enough for the time to be taken to follow through all the unanswered questions.

Also is it possible that Alexander and Beatrice married in Scotland?

hmm curiouser and curiouser :-S....still it is just a programme isn't it? ;-).....but just makes us want to dig :-D

NOPE! It doesn't add up....
Finkle family arrived in Southhampton 7 Jun 1907
Left again, this time with with Beatrice, age 10 . arriving NY 6 Sep 1907
Living in Passaic New Jersey in 1910... Beatrice Tinkle age14
Parents Harry and Jessie
( amended to Finkle by another member in May of this year)

Name: Beatrice W Ryan
Birth Date: abt 1885
Date of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar 1958
Age at Death: 73
Registration district: Paddington
Inferred County: London
Volume: 5d
Page: 192



name doesnt equate with Beatrice Garraud/ Finkle --


Strange lots of unanswered questions I think

perhaps it was a first marriage
Name: Beatrice Winifred Pickford
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1884
Registration district: East Stonehouse
Inferred County: Devon
Volume: 5b
Page: 314

Well I've just watched again on IPlayer and Beatrice's age on arrival in America doesn't add up :-S....I realise it can be within 5yr.... but passenger Beatrice Finkle arriving 1907 aged 10y born in 1894? have I missed something?

she travelled as Beatrice Finkle cant see her coming home a Finkle or Garraud