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+++DetEcTive+++ Report 16 Jun 2012 09:33

I'm happy to concede that the MMR does not cause autism - when this was first suggested, the children who were diagnosed with ASD were the first age group to have received the vacine, which co-incided with the chronoligical age when it is possible to diagnose ASD in a developing child.

What I am against, is bombarding an immature immune system with 3 viruses at once. The option for the protection to be given seperately on the NHS should be re-introduced.

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 16 Jun 2012 08:41

I live in an area where we quite frequently (every 3 or 4 years on average) have very serious outbreaks of various "childhood diseases".


About 75 miles away (which is close over here :-D ), there is a large community of people who emigrated from Holland at various times over the last 50-100 years. They mainly belong to the Dutch Reformed Church, one sect of which has traditionally refused to allow their children to be vaccinated.

The same applies in Holland.

There are still strong connections with their relations "back home" ............. and every epidemic has been started by a child visiting from Holland who has the measles, mumps or whatever.


It spreads "like wildfire" through their communities here, then gets into the school system, spreads from one school to another, etc etc.


We are currently in the middle of an epidemic which began last year, and has now affected every community between there and here on the coast. The two Public Health Authorities responsible for the whole area have brought in stocks of vaccine in order to try to stop the epidemic.


At the same time, there is another epidemic raging through Washington State, just below the border from us ................ and the Canadian government has issued warnings for Canadians wishing to go south.


Having been a child in the era before vaccination was available, I have seen the results of "childhood illnesses", and suffered through most of them!

The polio vaccine was the first vaccine that I had .................. I was just under the cut-off age for receiving it when it was first introduced around 1958 or so.


I would never want to see another child subject to the worst effects of measles, or mumps or chicken pox, rare though those effects might be.



sylvia

Guinevere

Guinevere Report 16 Jun 2012 08:04

My objection was to having 3 injections at once, two of which were totally unnecessary. I wasn't worried about the possibility of autism I just object to unnecessary medical procedures.

We have a history of many allergies and chronic asthma in our family and bad reactions to immunisations that was why I refused to let him have 3 lots of immunisation at once..

Had my son not had mumps already he would have had that jab but also separately. He doesn't need the rubella one, as previously stated.

Gwynne

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 16 Jun 2012 07:33

BUT



there is now EXCELLENT scientific evidence that MMR has absolutely NOTHING to do with autism!


On the contrary .............. there is EXCELLENT evidence for scientific misconduct in the investigations that allegedly proved the connection.


A paper published in 1998 in the medical journal The Lancet presented apparent evidence that autism spectrum disorders could be caused by the MMR vaccine.

No other scientist anywhere in the world managed to get the same results as shown in this paper .... and that alone raised doubts.

Investigations by Sunday Times journalist Brian Deer showed definitively that the lead author of the article, Andrew Wakefield, had multiple undeclared conflicts of interest, had manipulated evidence, and had broken other ethical codes.

These conflicts included Wakefield having received over £450,000 funding from Legal Aid Board solicitors seeking evidence to use against vaccine manufacturers, that Wakefield had applied for patents on a vaccine that was a rival of the MMR vaccine, and that he knew test results from his own laboratory at the Royal Free Hospital contradicted his claims.

Plus several of the parents quoted in the paper as saying that MMR had damaged their children were also sueing the manufacturers.


The Lancet paper was partially retracted in 2004 and fully retracted in 2010, and Wakefield was found guilty by the General Medical Council of serious professional misconduct in May 2010 and was struck off the Medical Register, meaning he could no longer practice as a doctor.

The research was declared fraudulent in 2011 by the British Medical Journal. T

he scientific consensus is that no evidence links the vaccine to the development of autism, and that the vaccine's benefits greatly outweigh its risks.

This is the REALLY scary part ........................

The claims in Wakefield's 1998 The Lancet article were widely reported; vaccination rates in the UK and Ireland dropped sharply, which in turn led to greatly increased incidence of measles and mumps, resulting in deaths and severe and permanent injuries. Measles is now considered endemic in the UK.


Physicians, medical journals, and editors have made statements tying Wakefield's fraudulent actions to various epidemics and deaths, and a 2011 journal article described the vaccine-autism connection as "the most damaging medical hoax of the last 100 years".




There is NO good reason not to have the vaccinations.




sylvia

jax

jax Report 16 Jun 2012 07:31

My 15 year old only had the booster when she was 4....I refused the first one when all this autism business came about...my ex's partners son who is the same age had it and he is autistic!!!

Guinevere

Guinevere Report 16 Jun 2012 06:41

Son had mumps before he was due the jab. He's not likely to ever get pregnant so I saw no reason for him to have the rubella jab.

The GP said there was no way he could have a separate measles jab so, like you, we paid to have them done at a private clinic.

Gwynne

Muffyxx

Muffyxx Report 16 Jun 2012 00:11

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2160054/MMR-A-mothers-victory-The-vast-majority-doctors-say-link-triple-jab-autism-Italian-court-case-reignite-controversial-debate.html

Would you/did you trust in the government or did you decide to kick against *experts* opinion.?

I refused the triple jab for both of mine and paid to have their jabs done separately..........I wouldn't give my dogs that level of vaccination in one dose but that's just me.

I'm the only one of all my friends that went that route though.........and was and probably is considered to be a bit *odd* for doing so.

Each to their own I say.