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I note the thread has been removed and was wondering why?

Roy

I have at last managed to log on and just before I did I was reading about this man who entered this country in 1993 illegally and we have kept him in luxury ever since and he is now moving to a bigger house and is delighted.

Even more would be delighted if he was deported - even his own family all those years ago said he was in no danger.

It was RRd then disappeared.

Wander why it was RR'd, I could not see any thing wrong with it and was adding to the thread when it was removed,

IF Julia's thread re appears i will post on that

Roy

No Roy, it was not my thread, it was Barbra's, and I read it, nothing was wrong, and it had a reply on it.

Julia in Derbyshire

Julia, sorry i thought it was your thread from our last contact? :-0

Roy :-D

No it was Barbra's, the first post was RRd before I could read it. Could it have been taken for racist? :-S

Ann, if it was removed for that reason, then why hasn't this one. I don't think it was racist, just Barbra's opinion.

Julia in Derbyshire

As I said I didn't see it Julia but I wondered if somebody was trigger happy because in their opinion it was racist. But it was very quickly removed.

Ann, That's the problem now in this country,

If you say any thing on any subject about any one who is not White British people think you are being racist,

How ever any one who is NOT white British are allowed to say as they like with out being held to account

Sad world when the racist card is used to stop any one's right to air their views and opinion

These issues will never be sorted out if people are not allowed to have a debate about all views from all sides of the community.

You cannot enforce some one's beliefs on others you have to win the argument through debate


Roy

Perhaps someone will think my comments racist - they are not, I do not care which religion he embraces, neither do I care whether he is pink, green, yellow or white - just that he is enjoying an excellent lifestyle at our expense without having put anything into this country.

Abu Qatada aka Omar Mahmoud Othman

Came to this country in September 1993 he fled with his wife and five children to the UK, using a forged UAE passport. He requested asylum on grounds of religious persecution and this was granted in June 1994.

he then supported the fatwa of an Algerian cleric that the killing of women and children by the militants in the Algeria was justified in 1994
So obviously his reason for seeking asylum was false claim



When questioned in the UK in February 2001, Abu Qatada was in possession of £170,000 cash, including £805 in an envelope labelled "For the Mujahedin in Chechnya

Not bad for some one on benefits

British press reports state that Abu Qatada's residence in Britain is estimated to have cost the British taxpayer at least £500,000 in benefit payments to his family and other expenses by early 2012

It's about time this country did the same as our eu partners such as France by ignoring the eu courts and doing what is in our interests and not his

Roy

Personally I cannot see any problem,he is here Illegaly and should be deported. The EU.Say we cannot do that due to Human Rights Etc. so we give him a much larger Accomodation, the only trouble is its not secure enough for him and his family.The answer to that is simple, I,m sure that the Jordanian Embassy has a few spare Rooms and they would be happy to accomodate him and his family at their expense to assist us with this problem. also to help him to visit his relatives cheaply via the Diplomatic Pouch. :-|

I suppose the thing with this particular one is do we stoop to their level and send someone back to most likely be tortured? Doesn't really bother me one way or the other, live by the sword and all that, but do we try to remain civilised or do we just say - 'oh, he's a terrorist, or suspected of being so and in that case we don't care. And he's getting benefits under what we think are false pretences'.

Like I say, I couldn't really care less - any religious fundamentalist can go meet their maker in whatever way they want to as far as I'm concerned and if there's a bit of pain along the way, well, seems to me that it's voluntary. It's all about keeping the moral high ground for us though.

Plus it's a slippery slope to talk about deporting people because they were granted asylum and are claiming benefits. Any decision based on that alone WOULD be bigoted and racist.

Funny old world - no one I know would ever admit to being a supporter of the BNP. Yet virtually everyone I speak to actually does support their policies and claims. You know, no immigration, no asylum seekers, white people can't speak up but black people can say what they want, you get the drift. Just saying, that's all :-)

Me thinks he should be deported:))

If he's here legally then maybe he should stay, if not then he should go. Its been said somewhere he won't get punished.
Far too many here illegally, and most are sapping our NHS and other amenities etc

Time we did as other countries do.
l am not a racist just fed up with the mass of illegals....sorryt :(

jude

It has been through the courts both here and in the eu and their is no doubt that he is here illegally so he is an illegal,

The only thing stopping him being deported is the country where we want to deport him to and the fact no other country would take him

and thats the problem

Roy

I Had managed to reply to this first thread but when I saw it had been reported I whipped my reply off.

However, this Country is seen as a soft touch for all these foreigners coming in. About time we looked after our own first and then see what can be done for all the so called 'refugees'

I agree that we 'whites' are not allowed to speak out of turn but anyone can throw abuse at us if they are from a different colour, creed etc. but we must NOT on any account say what we really think of them. It makes my blood boil and I could rant for England so I'll leave it for now.

Phyll...:)

Roy....what can be done, can we the public do anything??

Off to cook dinns so might not be back for a while.

jude

I think we just have to be patient and leave it to the powers that be

Roy

Can I just point out that British 'blacks' are equally 'up in arms' about illegal/convicted of a crime/extradition requested individuals who were not born in the UK and have no legal leg to stand on apart from that handed out by the court of Human Rights in the EU.

Our only hope is that we cut links with that particluar body and our government actually GOVERNS us.

Sue