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ShaneWelch

ShaneWelch Report 2 Oct 2011 21:15

I'm trying to find information on a Lillian A Carr born around 1906 married Alexander Fredrick Welch in 1924 I can not find a birth record please help

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 2 Oct 2011 21:25

Have you got her year of birth from the death cert ?

Name: Lilian A Welch
Birth Date: abt 1906
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1963
Age at Death: 57
Registration district: Willesden
Inferred County: Middlesex
Volume: 5f
Page: 261


Do you know what her middle name was ?

Have you got the marriage cert for the name and occupation of her father?

Usually best to post lookups on Find Ancestors

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 2 Oct 2011 21:34

If you get her marriage certificate, it will give you her age at marriage, the name of her father and his occupation, and the address where she was living at the time of marriage. Plus the names of the witnesses may also provide clues.






sylvia

Joy

Joy Report 2 Oct 2011 21:35

From http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/
Birth registered March qr 1906
Lilian Agnes Carr Paddington 1a 34a

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 2 Oct 2011 21:39

The marriage was also in the Willesden registration district ..... although she hersefl is missing from the record on freebmd.org.uk

Marriages Dec 1924 (>99%)

Welch Alexander F Carr Willesden 3a 563



ah, there has been a mistake in the page number!


Marriages Dec 1924 (>99%)

Carr Lillian A Welch Willesden 3a 565





sylvia

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 2 Oct 2011 21:41

Joy

Been trying to find that one on 1911 but hard without some idea of parents etc

Maureen

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 2 Oct 2011 21:45

??

Name: Agnes Lilian Carr
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1906
Baptism Date: 6 Sep 1906
Father's Name: Charles Jacob Carr - soldier
Mother's Name: Sarah Ann Carr
Parish or Poor Law Union: Paddington St Augustine
Borough: Westminster


Carlton Mews




??
Births Sep 1880 (>99%)
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CARR Charles Jacob Hampstead 1a 668

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Marriages Sep 1902 (>99%)
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Carr Charles Jacob Hendon 3a 418

Possible bride of Sarah Ann Busby

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 2 Oct 2011 21:47

??? her baptism, from ancestry:-


London, England, Births and Baptisms, 1813-1906 about Agnes Lilian Carr

Name: Agnes Lilian Carr
Record Type: Baptism
Estimated Birth Date: abt 1906
Baptism Date: 6 Sep 1906
Father's Name: Charles Jacob Carr
Mother's Name: Sarah Ann Carr
Parish or Poor Law Union: Paddington St Augustine
Borough: Westminster


from image:-

Address:- 2 Carlton Mews
Father's occupation:- Soldier




sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 2 Oct 2011 21:48

snap, GB!!!!

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 2 Oct 2011 21:50

Lol Sylvia

Both thinking along the same lines

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 2 Oct 2011 21:53

Really strange as I have looked at this record before for some one

1911
CARR, Sarah Ann Inmate Married
11 years F 28 1883 No Occupation London Hampstead VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
1856 Reference:
RG14PN1856 RD23 SD5 ED38 SN1

Registration District:
Southwark Sub District:
Newington South Enumeration District:
38 Parish:
St Mary Newington

Address:
Westmoreland Road Walworth S E



1911 also looked at this one before

CARR, Agnes Inmate F 5 1906 Scholar London Newington VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
6867 Reference:
RG14PN6867 RG78PN342 RD128 SD3 ED14 SN1

Registration District:
Brentford Sub District:
Hanwell Enumeration District:
14 Parish:
Hanwell

Address:
Greenford Avenue Hanwell

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 2 Oct 2011 22:00

Any chance we can call you Shane rather than Unknown

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 2 Oct 2011 22:05

Those 2 records look intriguing GB!


??????????????


London, England, Marriages and Banns, 1754-1921 about Charles Jacob Carr

Name: Charles Jacob Carr
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881
Spouse Name: Sarah Ann Busby
Spouse Age: 20
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 13 Jul 1902
Parish: Holy Trinity, Kilburn
County: London
Borough: Brent
Father Name: Jacob Carr
Spouse Father Name: James Busby


from image:-

Charles
Bachelor
Occupation:- Labourer
Address:- 6 Netherwood Stree
Father:- deceased, labourer

Sarah
Spinster
no occupation given
Address:- 4 (possibly 9) Carlton Terrace
Father:- Labourer

Witnesses:- Charles Daniel Clift and Emily Eline Clift



sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 2 Oct 2011 22:11

Births Sep 1880 (>99%)

CARR Charles Jacob Hampstead 1a 668

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 2 Oct 2011 22:12

Births Dec 1882 (>99%)
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Busby Sarah Ann Hampstead 1a 653


This birth is the reason why I posted the possible on 1911 although number of years married is wrong





Think we could do with some feedback on this one

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 2 Oct 2011 22:15

Sarah Ann says she's still married on that 1911 ........ I wonder if Charles left her, or is abroad.




Everything does seem to fit .................but!!!!




sylvia

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 2 Oct 2011 22:18

BUT - his mother is Harriet and born Worcestershire on 1891 census

1911?
CALS, William Head Married
12 years M 40 1871 Coal Porter Kentish Town London VIEW
CALS, Hariett Wife Married F 52 1859 Worcester Worcestershire VIEW
CARR, Charles Stepson Single M 30 1881 Soldier Hamsptead London - Rifle Brigade
CARR, Lilly Stepdaughter Single F 17 1894 Servant Hamsptead London VIEW

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RG number:
RG14 Piece:
7250 Reference:
RG14PN7250 RG78PN354 RD132 SD2 ED5 SN169

Registration District:
Edmonton Sub District:
Wood Green Enumeration District:
5 Parish:
Wood Green

Address:
99 Acacia Road Wood Green



Charles is in barracks in 1901

GlitterBaby

GlitterBaby Report 2 Oct 2011 22:31

Marriages Mar 1899 (>99%)
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Carr Harriett Pancras 1b 202
Cayford Ellen Louisa Pancras 1b 202
Eals William Pancras 1b 202
Rackham Thomas John Pancras 1b 202


Will do a name correction on 1911 census


Going to give up on this without feedback

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 2 Oct 2011 22:40

Is this Charles with his parents in 1881??


1881 Census

Name: Jacob Carr
Age: 28
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1853
Relation: Head
Spouse's Name: Harriet Carr
Gender: Male
Where born: Bedfordshire, England

Civil parish: Hampstead St Johns
County/Island: London
Country: England

Street Address: 63 Fleet Rd
Condition as to marriage: Married

Occupation: Carman

Registration district: Hampstead
Sub-registration district: Hampstead

Jacob Carr 28
Harriet Carr 26 b.ca 1855, Worcestershire
Maude Carr 3
Charles Carr 8 mos, Hampstead




sylvia

SylviaInCanada

SylviaInCanada Report 2 Oct 2011 22:46

England & Wales, FreeBMD Death Index: 1837-1915 about Jacob Carr

Name: Jacob Carr
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1898
Age at Death: 44
Registration district: Hampstead
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1a
Page: 449 (click to see others on page)




sylvia