General Chat

My mum would twitch the curtain first, then open the front door and peer out as if she was looking for somebody, i.e. me.

Strange thing is, she wanted to me to marry them all, irrespective of their suitability.

The one she wasn't fussed about, I married, and am still married to him 39 years on.

When we went back to his house after a date, his mum used to bang on the bedroom floor with a stick. That was a sign to say $u%%er O&&. Oh, sorry, I will be reported for that.

I think a lot of the problems stem from no self respect.
Advertisements extolling this expensive item, or that 'perfect' beauty treatment. Governments referring to those of us who earn less than the national average as 'the poor' - like not earning buckets makes you an alien species all adds to a feeling that you are stuck and 'less worthy' than others.
The asumption by those in power that everyone has an i pod, flat screen tv, computer etc - even the jobless are meant to look online for jobs - how the hell are they expected to afford broadband on £67 a week?
It all enhances the feeling of 'otherness'.

Education doesn't help - they're all meant to strive to get to University, or at least 5 grade 'A's There are other things in life that are no longer taught, empathy, morals - and self respectin your own ability - which may be manual, not academic.
If you're not academic, secondary school must be 5 years of hell - 5 years of your inadequacy being drummed into you - and then you're not even allowed to even attempt to takeGCSE's, as you'll lower the school's grade in the league tables.

No wonder the youth, and those in their 20's are so loud and boorish, they've had years of being told they're worthless- you then feel you have to shout to let others know you exist - and have babies to show you can do something. .......and so the cycle continues......

Have to admit to never swearing in font of my children when they were young- but when the eldest was in her teens and 'let slip' a swearword at me, I let the lot out! She was so shocked that I knew these words, that she didn't swear in front of me for a good 3 years! she was quite impressed that a 'fogey could swear - and knew more than she did! LOL
I then explained the simple truth: you don't have to be old to teach history, nor French to teach french, likewise you don;t have to swear to know swearwords!!
Her eldest (aged 9) hears swear words at school, but is told not to use them at home/in front of her younger brothers.
The 'raciest' joke she has told me is:
'Knock Knock'
Who's there
Europe
Europe Who?
No, you are!

When I was a Learning Support assistant at a school, 20 odd years ago,
we had some very badly behaved/brought up twins (mind you, with parents like they had, they didn't have a hope in hell|), who overstepped the mark on many an occasion.
One day I had to take them (aged 9) out of the classroom and teach/control them in a room on their own.
One of them said 'I don't want to go in that f***** room (normal language for them)
Without thinking, I replied you will go in that f**** room,at which point he accused me of swearing. I pointed out that I had merely repeated what he had said, and that he had used the word so often I understood that it was normal for him, and judging from his previous disgusting language, (the reason they'd been excluded from class) one of the few words in the English language that had any meaning for both of them.
I went on: If it wasn't a'normal' word forthem, (it was - and they obviously realised it's effect) and he called it a swearword, they were quite capable of NOT using it - in which case, next time either of them used it I would be down on him like a ton of bricks!
They realised they had been hung by their own petard - and behaved impeccably for me after that!!!

see...... Muffy violent.... :-P

I have to confess, I did have to giggle when my daughter, then age 6, used the f word. She'd come home upset because the bigger girls had cornered her in the loos, and were calling her names. I asked what they called her, and she said, straight faced with a sniff 'one of them called me a f***off!'
Bless her she'd never heard the word before so didn't know what it meant, she thought it was a name. I had to explain it wasn't a nice word and she's not to use it again, and she didn't...well, not until she was in her teens having a fight with her brother and thought I was out of earshot lol. :-S

thank god i didnt kill the thread lol.thanks muffy you saved me once again.x : :

*slaps Hayley* :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D

Not a drop passes my lips...how very dare you !!!!!!!!!! :-S

I had a similar experience with one of my second cousins...they found their daughter's foul language aged 2 hysterical...I was disgusted..and still am when I hear such language coming from tiny mouths..which is why I am sooooo against people swearing around children.

As people who have met me will attest...I swear like a trooper in an adult environment........but i wouldn't DREAM of doing it in front of my children or anyone elses and I get jolly bleedy cross if anyone does x

I think they should just pass a law that bans women from drinking full stop....

** looks over shoulder for BC and Muffy ** <3 <3 <3 :-D

to add to your thread(i hope i dont kill it lol)
last year i was talking to a woman that i know in the village,and she started telling me what she said was a "funny story "about her granddaughter age just 2.she was looking after the little girl and after telling the childseveral times to tidy up her toys,the child turned round and told her to f--- off,she thought it was the funniest thing ever(i didnt laugh)what hope have todays generation got if a grandmother thinks thats funny?.
and a few yrs ago i was on a placement in a local barnardos creche(the children where in the creche while the parents where next door attending parenting classes(and they were not all young p,arents)the children age between 18m ans three and a half were all in nappies except one,and not one child could string a sentence together,but several could tell you to f--- off or p--- off. its about parenting and its not all about young parents,lots of young parents bring up lovely polite kids.what hope have our next generation got.x

They dont get drunk in pubs and clubs now as the night goes on,their off their faces or as near when they hit the town.......

Same here Muffers.............A look out the curtain was all it took,,,,,me bemoaning and get told..........you forget young lady!!! I have been a young man and take it from me I know a little better than you at this time,,,,,,,,hard to imagine he ever was a stud once...... :-D :-D :-D

Oh and I don't think the way girls behave on a Friday night has anything to do with equality, it's just the availability of cheap booze. Stop the supermarkets selling it so cheap and half the problem is solved IMO. :-D

I think a lot of it boils down to parenting. As Muffy already demonstrated, parents swearing and behaving aggressively in front of their children are already on a slippery slope. Those kids, and probably their parents too, have not been taught respect.

When I was at school, if I got a detention for doing something wrong, I'd get grounded at home too! I was brought up to face the consequences of my actions.
These days if a school takes any form of discipline, that action also includes by default, appeasing angry parents whose 'little angel' would never do such a thing.

I never had any illusions about my children. If they were accused of fighting in the playground, they probably were, (only happened once BTW), and I would deal with it WITH the school, rather than go in all guns blazing, threaten them with all sorts then take the kids to McD's.

What worries me these days is there isn't a shortage of mindless chavs to appear on the likes of Jeremy Kyle.... :-0

My parents were never that subtle. He'd get told to sling his hook and I'd get dragged in and told to behave myself.....

I used to make sure we said *goodnight* elsewhere lolololol x

Speaking of milkmen...did anyone else have a parent who would put the empties out and make a point of rattling them when you were in boyfriend's car kissing him goodnight for too long? lol, I had to be in at a reasonable time, I was very late once ( not my fault) and the atmosphere when I got in ...oooh , not nice lol.

Trouble is lots are allowed to act just as they like at home from an ealry teen age,telling parent to go forth and the parents giving as much back,,,,give them a key at 13/15 and ask next day what time they got in at,,,!!!,I see youngerst no more than 15/16 out at 2/3 or on the way home with the milkman !!,,,I would never have been allowed to do that and sure lots of wasnt,,,,,,,and parents were mind readers that you darn't even think a swear word let alone mime it silently...... :-D :-D :-D :-D

Hayley I'd have done just the sam e and gone to ask her,,,,,,La Senza or Sparks and Marks...... :-D :-D

I dont think drunken behaviour from women can just be blamed on age/gen or social circles....take for instance I was at the races last saturday, I saw a women poss 40/50 stagger in to the gents she was legless and she had wet herself, we went in to York later on and the place was full of the race goers, at one point I saw a couple man and women around my age ish 30/40, both dolled up to the nines he was eatting his kebab, she was clinging to the lamp post for dear life, and her shoes were about 4 ft high, as i walked past her I heard a thud, she was on the floor flat on her back, she was wearing lovely underwear, he carried on eatting his kebab, I walked back if only to cover her up and ask were she got her underwear set from, but her bloke gave her a hand, without letting go of his kebab.

Oh! I meant to say too many people seem to think that the way people behave on Eastenders and Jeremy Kyle is normal (and I'm not fussing soaps cos I like them) - hence too much shouty aggressive behaviour these days

My Mother was agressive when it came to any of us, I used to look at her when I was a child and she was my mum and just wasnt scared of anything, she would stand up to anyone and wasnt afraid to tackle anyone, she didnt go out looking for trouble as a widow she thought she had to adopt amore masculine role, as there was no man in the house, being brought up with 7 older brothers this was an easy trait for her todo.

I too have seen fist fights over children in a playground....COMMON...in my opinion.

I think swearing is much more common than it used to be but I've not noticed much change in young women. I'm under 40 (just!) and have a few women friends 10-15 years older who have always been drunken brawling fishwives. In my usual 'crowd' of friends, the women are in their twenties and don't generally behave like the television news or the Daily Mail suggest.

Rose, I think when the poster begins with an article from a tabloid, you're gonna get a few generalisations :))))))