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The Law and The England Flag,

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Lee

Lee Report 10 Jun 2010 07:06

With the World Cup approaching, England fans will be flying their England flags proudly in support of their country.

But rumours circulating on the internet have raised fears that hoisting the St George's flag on cars, mounting flags on windows and even wearing England T-shirts may be illegal.

Please read more below on the link


http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Nl1/Newsroom/Broadcasts/DG_188060?cid=rss

JaneyCanuck

JaneyCanuck Report 10 Jun 2010 07:12

"Flying national flags from windows or cars is within the law, providing they are not offensive or a danger on the road."

Oh, excuse me, I almost fell asleep there.


* It is not illegal to hang flags in windows at home
* If you plan to display flags from your car, make sure they don't restrict your sight or the sight of other drivers
* Wearing England T-shirts, or T-shirts of any other nationality, is not an offence


Yawn.

What did you want us to read? That this is a non-story?

Gotcha.

DIZZI

DIZZI Report 10 Jun 2010 07:26

HI YA LEE


JANEY
BE NICE
OR I WILL EMAIL

YOUR MUM

Lee

Lee Report 10 Jun 2010 08:11

Hiya Dizzy, keeping well ?

DIZZI

DIZZI Report 10 Jun 2010 08:13

I'M
STILL PLAYING THE MUSIC
AND WHEN I CAN
VERY LOUD

Lee

Lee Report 10 Jun 2010 08:42

Keep it up Dizzy, when you stop playing the music that's when you start to get old.

All the best Diz.......Lee.

SueMaid

SueMaid Report 10 Jun 2010 08:51

Well admittedly I live in Australia but we are already flying our flags in preparation for the World Cup. Also hats, scarves, free give-aways in the newspapers, shirts etc all in support of our Aussie team. And you can't get much more multicultural than Australia.

Sue xx

StrayKitten

StrayKitten Report 10 Jun 2010 08:51

well i was told yesterday, that the local council are coming round and asking us to take our flags down!

well i wont be taking my flags down!

Lee

Lee Report 10 Jun 2010 09:01

Stray Kiitten you are perfectly within your rights to fly a English flag, Cross of Saint George.

Sue Maid Fly your flag with Pride, i do.

Silly Sausage

Silly Sausage Report 10 Jun 2010 09:04

Good morning Lee hope your well, Its a load of bull and normally gives the closet racists a chance to bang on about England being English and being insulted, as we seen only here a few weeks ago, the only time I get insulted is when people think I believe every thing I read in the press when I lower myself to read it. :)))

SueMaid

SueMaid Report 10 Jun 2010 09:05

Well Lee I have to admit that we're fence-sitters. We have an interest in both England and Australia's teams:-))

Actually I read the article and it would seem it's just a rumour. There is a reassurance that it is perfectly legal to fly your flag.

Sue xx

Eldrick

Eldrick Report 10 Jun 2010 09:09

Thanks for that. It shows that flying flags is totally legal, thereby hopefully ending the rumours, speculation, urban myths and shocked outrage based on incorrect information.

Nice one.

Silly Sausage

Silly Sausage Report 10 Jun 2010 09:14

He is painting so thats now getting on me chest ( Ive told him to wipe his hands first) I think the Diva fever is now getting in to the stages of Fairy flu which we all know is fatel....:( thanks for asking you're a dear ...sorry Lee for going off topic..

Lee

Lee Report 10 Jun 2010 09:35

Yes once and for all lets put all the bull*** to bed regarding flying our English flag,

and i might add it's not racist to fly it either, be proud of it whatever country you come from.

Thanks for your comments and Hello to you all.

Lee.

Silly Sausage

Silly Sausage Report 10 Jun 2010 09:44

Lee what I meant was a couple of weeks ago their were groups on another site with things such as " you dont like our flag but happy to claim our benefits " sort of thing :) ....

Kay????

Kay???? Report 10 Jun 2010 09:54


I havnt got a flag,so am going for a full body paint art job,,,}}}}}}}}}}}}

Silly Sausage

Silly Sausage Report 10 Jun 2010 10:32

Kay Nice plz dont tell BC or she will want it done *frets*

Kay????

Kay???? Report 10 Jun 2010 10:41

What you mean,!!!!

BC suggested it to me Hayley,,,,,,}}}}}}}}

Rambling

Rambling Report 10 Jun 2010 11:21

Only people with no brain and an inexhaustible supply of stupid assumptions could imagine that any council is going to employ a 'little man' to go out and remove flags from cars ( 'by God he's fast on his feet') or the hundreds of windows ( round here) that are flying the flag...

Rose xx ( grumpy this morning and fed up with idiots lol)



supercrutch

supercrutch Report 10 Jun 2010 11:36

Police chief's flag racism fears

Many England fans are flying the flag on their cars for the World Cup
England fans flying the cross of St George on their cars could antagonise Welsh fans, according to the deputy chief constable of North Wales Police.
Clive Wolfendale said "incessant" flag-waving in Wales during the World Cup could lead to racism and violence.

His comments were made during a launch of the force's anti-violence campaign to coincide with the World Cup.

Clwyd West MP David Jones said flags were "innocuous" and that Mr Wolfendale was "completely misguided".

Mr Wolfendale, who is English, said there is a place for flag-waving during the World Cup.

But he believes that in the weeks before the tournament, the sight of the English flag being displayed on cars "frequently and overtly" is "unnecessary".

'In your face'

Mr Wolfendale said: "I'm an Englishman and I'll be supporting England during the World Cup campaign and if I was at the game or in and around the stadium there's a fair chance I might be waving the flag.

"But I think there comes a point when weeks before the tournament the incessant use of these symbols is a bit in your face and I just wish people would sometimes reflect on the impact that's having on others."


Clive Wolfendale said overt flag-waving was "unnecessary"
Mr Wolfendale said that in a football context Wales was "definitely another country" adding that he wished England fans "would reflect on that before they start festooning their vehicles in this way".

He said that displaying the flag was not illegal but that in Wales it was a "matter of courtesy and of decent behaviour" for England fans not to do so.

He added: "There's no doubt about it that this can be the precursor to behaviour which is much worse than flag waving - it's violence, it's racism, it's hooliganism of the very worse kind."

North Wales Police have launched a pub campaign entitled Show Violence the Red Card.

Posters carrying the slogan have also been printed in Polish and Portuguese - two countries also competing in the World Cup, and which have large communities in Wrexham.

'Completely misguided'

Mr Wolfendale's comments have been criticised by some MPs in north Wales.

Alyn and Deeside Mark Tami said the remarks were not helpful and risk creating a problem "that isn't actually there".

He said he does not believe that tension between English and Welsh fans exists in north Wales.

Clwyd West MP David Jones said Mr Wolfendale's comments were "laughable".

He added: "I think it's pretty innocuous (for fans) to display their flag from the little flagpoles on their cars if they want to do that.

"I can't believe that the people of Wales are so intolerant of a few English football fans that they would be incited to violence - I think he's completely barking up the wrong tree.

"Frankly, flying a little flag on your way to Colwyn Bay for the day is, I don't think, going to spark any violence - I think he's completely misguided."

Sue