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I am looking for more information regarding Winifred A H Groom who arrived I believe in Liverpool she was married in 1945 to an Everitt Groom and I think he may have been a soldier from USA how do I access passenger lists for more details?

This was on Ancestry:

EDIT: Proposed address in UK was 96 Hildaville Drive Westcliffe//Sea (Southsea?) and she had a 3 yr old child with her, Glenn J Groom

Name: Winifred A H Groom
Birth Date: abt 1920
Age: 33
Port of Departure: New York, New York, United States
Arrival Date: 3 Apr 1953
Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England
Ports of Voyage: New York
Ship Name: Empress of Scotland
Search Ship Database: View the 'Empress of Scotland' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping Line: Canadian Pacific
Official Number: 161430

England & Wales, Marriage Index: 1916-2005
Name: Everitt C Groom
Spouse Surname: Holloway
Date of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep 1945
Registration district: Surrey Mid Eastern
Registration county (inferred): Surrey
Volume Number: 2a
Page Number: 527
Find Spouse: Winifred A H Holloway





Winifred and son are leaving the UK from the address in Westcliff on Sea to go to Canada -



Name: Winifred GROOM
Date of departure: 4 March 1954
Port of departure: Southampton
Passenger destination port: New York, USA
Passenger destination: New York, USA

Date of Birth: 1920 (calculated from age)
Age: 34
Marital status:
Sex: Female
Occupation: H'wife
Passenger recorded on: Page 18 of 32





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The following people with the same last name travelled on this voyage: -

Glenn GROOM Page 18 of 32 View transcript



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Ship:
Official Number:
Master's name:
Steamship Line:
Where bound:
Square feet:
Registered tonnage:
Passengers on voyage:
QUEEN MARY
164282
R G Thelwell
Cunard White Star Limited
New York, USA

33237
876

To add to the record Wildgoose found, it states that Canada was the country of last permanent residence, and that the Country of Intended future permanent residence (ie other than UK) was 'Other parts of the British Empire'

So if the record(s) found are correct, could Everitt have been a Canadian?

I wonder if Michele knows how to return to her thread; I am not sure but she may be new to the boards.

Hello to all of you Wildgoose, Choccy and DETand thank you so much for this!! no i did not know how to access this so thank you AuntySherlock. This is wonderful news and a lot to absorb. I have also received yesterday in the post a death cert for Alice Gillies who is Winifred's elder sister, Alice died in1999 and the informant is a Heather Groom who must be another child of Winifred's along with Glenn (the address is Canada) again! it certainly seems grand all the travelling on the these cruise liners! must have been wonderful at the time
Michele

Yes Everitt was a Canadian I have the 1916 census he was born in Ontario, Winifred was a war bride, oddly though she returned to the UK at some stage because she is buried with her mother and father in Southend on Sea she was 64 when she passed away

I have since uncovered a second sibling Heather Groom and have written to her in Canada but last address is 11 years old yet to hear back

Good luck and I hope you are lucky.
That would be so good.
Deanna X