General Chat

I opened with my statement that Central Government was too detached from the problems we experience in rural areas, blah, blah.

The next question was as follows:

"Immigration, what you are going to do about it? Nobody asked me if I wanted to live in a multi-cultural society. My geography tells me that when these people leave their country of origin they are supposed to stop in the first safe country. They aren't supposed to cross as many borders as required to then cross the sea to the UK. Why should we have them all?

I am not a racist but how will you put a stop to it.

We are supposed to be a Christian country, not any more, why shouldn't schools put on Nativity plays, it shouldn't offend anyone else who come and live here. There's all too much PC nowadays. I don't go to church myself but I want to live in a Christian country with Christian values"

You should have seen the MP's face...lol

Sue xx

Are you not confusing asylum seekers with legal immigrants.....?

I wasn't confusing anything Eldrick, the questioner (a lady in her 50s) was. The silence was deafening when she spoke, an English accent in a small Welsh speaking village...moaning about immigration.....lmao

I raied two points: rural economy and DDA contraventions.

Sue x

"I am not a racist but ..."

One of my favourite sayings!


"You should have seen the MP's face...lol"

Did he manage to avoid looking like he had just found a worm in his apple??


"an English accent in a small Welsh speaking village...moaning about immigration.....lmao"

and she probably has friends and rellies living in Spain, France ...

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Did he ask to see your Visa Sue:}}}}}

you should learn to speak Welshy......

I have been an immigrant in Wales .... several times in fact...

back in the early 60s and when i was the only English child in the village,my mother was informed by the district nurse that if any diseases came to the village it would be my fault for bringing them in ;)

what's that saying ? "Plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose" ...I never did learn to say it in Welsh...I can still count to ten though and pronounce place names reasonably well lol.

would you be classed as an immigrant in wales, seeing as its the UK, and ya dont need a passport to visit or live in that country sorta thing lol,

i no what i mean if it dont make sence lol,xxx

Not in the same sense Stray, not as an 'immigrant' as such but sometimes as an 'outsider' lol

when Dan was in school his lessons were in Welsh, and some jobs are only open to Welsh speakers. The first language you hear on the station announcements is Welsh, and S4C is the Welsh equivalent to C4 on tv.

oh does dan speak welsh then? xxx

It was interesting to watch his facial expressions as she continued to rant, you could feel the atmosphere in the room change. It was like watching a slow motion car crash.

I watched his campaign manager shift her feet about...A LOT.

I am no longer an immigrant as I have been here over 25 years and can speak Welsh..although with difficulty..lol I knew I had been sort of accepted when a staunch Nationalist sold me their house (they had always said they would never sell to an incomer). As our children are all fluent in Welsh and I went to Merched Y Wawr (WI) cooked and knitted for the local farmers when they helped us out we were accepted within about 3 years.

I still suffer abuse though when the rubgy is on because I support the English :-))

Sue

Not now Stray, but he could and read it very well when he was younger...probably forgotten most of it now though like me he can pronounce the double 'll's and know that 'f' is pronounced v and double f is f lol .

Acceptance rate is faster there than over this side of the country then Sue. It' takes about 20 years to be fully accepted in Norfolk.

(sit down all you Norfolk protestors, you know it's true LOL).

You can 'integrate' here quite easily, but you're always the outsider for a good many years. Less so in Norwich, as it's quite cosmopolitan here these days, but in rural areas it's still true. my Dad lived in rural Norfolk for 30 years, but it took him about 20 to be seen as 'local'.

Yep. I can go with that TW.
I live on the Norfolk/Cambs borders...as you know..been here almost 6 yrs and I'm still known as the *Cambridgeshire Cockney*...

I'm not even a bl**dy cockney..I'm from W London...blinking locals LOL xx

To be fair there is a lot more Wenglish spoken here now but 25 years ago..not. It was quite common in smaller villages not to be acknolwedged in shops if you spoke to them in English.

As Rose mentioned some jobs are open only to Welsh speakers even now. It's accepted that the language of business is English but because the Welsh language society is so prominent they do have a lot of influence.

I mentioned before that my expected grandbaby will be raised bi-lingual because the best schools are still Welsh language in the main.

Sue

Teresa.......you are SO right on that one ....lol . I wasn't born in Norfolk but have lived here for 37 years . My OH was born just up the road from where we live at the moment , we have been living together in this house for 18 years ( I was here first ) and he has just recently started talking to folks up and down the road , he has nodded to them in the past . But has a bee in his bonnet about the " being local " thing.

Crutch

Youll be banned from voting if he aint got a sense of humor,,:}}}}}

did he have any laughter lines or a crinkle here or there,,,,,,,ha.

In Otley West Yorkshire you never lose the term "outsider"

I know a family that lived in Otley from 1939 and daughters still live there and they are still classed as outsiders.

Their mother and the son and daughters were evacuated there at the start of WW2 and when the mother died in 2006.some of the people said"well she was an outsider""

My late husband was born and bred in Otley but his ancestors came from Northallerton North Yorkshire and Hartlepool.
I lived there from 1997 and when he died in 2002 the neighbours and some of the town folk made my life a misery because I wasn't born there.


It's a very cliquey market town.

Although I class myself as an Essex girl, I was born in cambridge and raised in and around Ely for the most part, though large chunks of my childhood were spent in East London, Hampshire and Somerset. I was never quite 'local' though even then.

But I moved to Essex, and was accepted there right away, I've always felt at home there, and class myself as 'local' as did everyone else.

Now I'm back to the old situation of being the outsider again. Never mind, only 13 years to go...lol

Talking of Welsh speakers. When I was in Cearnafon, I walked into a shop where the assistants were having a good gossip in english. As soon as I walked in the conversation stopped abruptly, then continued in Welsh! It didn't go down well with my then husband lol

Kay, he is actually very nice and has helped me out a few times by contacting the minister responsible for whichever department I was having a moan about.

I didn't recognise the woman who questioned him about immigration, no doubt I'll hear more in the local Post Office next week..lol

You can't do/say anything here without it being a day's gossip!

Sue x

My dog is Welsh :0)