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Eldrick

Eldrick Report 22 Apr 2010 22:01

I found this little item today. It's made of lead alloy and looks to me like possibly a jester or someone in late medieval dress. It's got me a bit stumped, so any ideas of what it might be gratefully accepted.....I need to put a rough date to it. It's 4cm tall.

http://i840.photobucket.com/albums/zz330/eldrick2010/065.jpg

SueMaid

SueMaid Report 22 Apr 2010 22:06

I think it's a voodoo doll. Did you find any pins nearby?

Sue

Eldrick

Eldrick Report 22 Apr 2010 22:09

No, its not a voodoo doll. This thread OK for you?

AnninGlos

AnninGlos Report 22 Apr 2010 22:11

Maybe it was some sort of child's toy. Or the equivalent of a 'fairing'. It sort of looks like a pixie or joker.

Researching:
Photo spring Researching Somerset, Dorset, Hampshire, Derbyshire, Staffs, Devon, Glamorganshire. Ingram, Masters, Tamblyn, Knight, Warner, Bate, Allen, Riggs, Dominey, Duffin

~~~Secret Red ^^ Squirrel~~~ **007 1/2**

~~~Secret Red ^^ Squirrel~~~ **007 1/2** Report 22 Apr 2010 22:13

Wow, that's wonderful! Maybe we'll see you one day on the antiques Roadshow ;)

It does look very "jesterish" doesn't it?

Eldrick

Eldrick Report 22 Apr 2010 22:14

yes, its got the look of a jester sort of thing. I'm not sure about it being a toy - its got a fixing on the rear. The context in which it was found would suggest 16th C......

Rambling

Rambling Report 22 Apr 2010 22:16

Punchinello ...

Researching:

AnninGlos

AnninGlos Report 22 Apr 2010 22:16

If it has a fixing could it have been a brooch?

Researching:
Photo spring Researching Somerset, Dorset, Hampshire, Derbyshire, Staffs, Devon, Glamorganshire. Ingram, Masters, Tamblyn, Knight, Warner, Bate, Allen, Riggs, Dominey, Duffin

SueMaid

SueMaid Report 22 Apr 2010 22:16

Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit:-)) I told you that some of your threads are interesting - this could very well be one of them lol

Sue

StrayKitten

StrayKitten Report 22 Apr 2010 22:20

Rose iv got the punchinella song in my head now!

could it be som sort of good luck charm?

Researching:
It wasn't me

Eldrick

Eldrick Report 22 Apr 2010 22:24

I'm liking the punchinello idea.........I dont think it's a brooch or a charm, I wouldnt expect either to be made of lead, but it's still possible. It may, of course, be mor emodern than I think, but I definetely like the punchinello.

Mwaah Rose!

MarionfromScotland

MarionfromScotland Report 22 Apr 2010 22:24

Looks like him.....


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Morph-NMM-Bradford.jpg

Kay????

Kay???? Report 22 Apr 2010 22:24

I bet its been painted at one time ,it looks like it could brooch ,if its lead alloy then could be anytime in last 50/100 years.

eldo.. ive got some lead based brooches.from the early 1940s.!! one is of a pixie.:}}}}

Rambling

Rambling Report 22 Apr 2010 22:27

Just away having a search, but the shape of the collar is certainly about right for Punchinello / Pulchinello 17th c Commedia del arte ( wishing I'd kept the theatre books i had tsk)

Researching:

DIZZI

DIZZI Report 22 Apr 2010 23:19

COULD IT BE A TOY

Researching:
FINCH+LOCK+WEAVER+HALES+BROOKINGS+MANSFIELD+HOOK+TITCHENER and STEVEN & ISRAEL WEAVER c1735

maggiewinchester

maggiewinchester Report 22 Apr 2010 23:23

Tried to see it - but the photo's been removed!
edit - found it!

Researching:
Henry Floyd (g x 4 grandad) Allegedly the heaviest man in England in 1842

DIZZI

DIZZI Report 22 Apr 2010 23:25

ONE THING DID SUPRISE ME ,I THOUGHT THAT THE OLDER
ARTIFACT WAS THE MORE VALUE BUT NOT ALWAYS
,,,,,SHAME

Researching:
FINCH+LOCK+WEAVER+HALES+BROOKINGS+MANSFIELD+HOOK+TITCHENER and STEVEN & ISRAEL WEAVER c1735

DIZZI

DIZZI Report 22 Apr 2010 23:30

I THINK ITS A TOY PIRATE DOLL cVICTORIAN

Researching:
FINCH+LOCK+WEAVER+HALES+BROOKINGS+MANSFIELD+HOOK+TITCHENER and STEVEN & ISRAEL WEAVER c1735

supercrutch

supercrutch Report 22 Apr 2010 23:34

Just my opinion, if it's 16c then I can't see it being a toy because the arms are defined as opposed to being close to the body. If it has a fixing then possibly a tradesmans advertising piece.

Hey what the hell do I know...lol

Do you have the answer? and are being a little tease?

Researching:
Jones!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Eldrick

Eldrick Report 22 Apr 2010 23:34

thanks, but its not a pirate or a doll, lol.

As I say, it was a definite late medieval context that I found it (archaeological site) but it's possible that it has somehow been introduced into the layer.

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