General Chat

IF YOU HAVE A PENKNIFE IN YOUR GLOVEBOX IN A CASE
WITH A FIRSTAID KIT
YOU CAN GET HAD FOR CARRYING AN OFFENSIVE WEAPON
A 61YR OLD MAN IN TORQUAY HAS,
HE USED IT WHEN CAMPING,STOPPED FOR A BREATH TEST BY POLICE WHICH HE PASSED CLEAR THEY SEARCHED HIS CAR FOUND IT IN HIS GLOVEBOX,
HE WAS GIVEN A CONDITIONAL DISCHARGE BUT HAS A CRIMINAL RECORD,
AND THIS COST US THE PUBLIC £20,000

MAKES ME WONDER WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH
THIS COUNTRY

Looks like they were out to get him for something/anything. I thought small knives were not considered to be weapons which is why he had a conditional discharge I reckon.

on a similar note, have you watched any of the Cops with cameras type programs?

once they stop someone they usually manage to find SOME thing to knick them for, but quite often there are no grounds and the "Victim" is released without charge although of course having been arrested his DNA and fingerprints are now in the database?
cynical, not I,...!!!
bob

The law on knives is quite clear. A locking knife witha cutting edge in excess of 3" is illegal to carry in a public place. It is NOT illegal to carry a small penknife in your first aid kit.

An offensive weapon is a different act, and it refers to any article adapted, intended or made to cause harm or injury. It doesn't refer to knives in particular.

It's interesting to note that this man pleaded guilty to carrying an offensive weapon. If he was innocent, he should have pleaded NOT guilty. It's no use whinging on about something that you admit! The news article doesn't give the full facts, so once again, people are left to fill in the gaps and and make a sensational case out of nothing.

ELDRICK
FROM WHAT I READ HE WAS TOLD TO PLEAD GUILTY

Told to plead guilty.......? Well, it's his own fault then. If he was innocent he should have pleaded not guilty. By pleading guilty, he has accepted his guilt. End of story.

And if someone told him to plead guilty against his wishes, more fool him for taking notice. No sympathy at all.

THANK YOU ELDRCK

......so when you go for an impromptu picnic, (pick up a baguette & pate in a shop - then find somewhere nice to sit) what are you meant to cut the baguette or spread the pate with?..........

Look at all the knives that locum chef's have to carry (tools of te trade) and other trades.

Lots of men and boys years ago used to carry a penknife,what else did you sharpen your pencil with.

I carry a small stainless steel penknife always , it comes in handy if I want to eat an apple or sharpen a pencil.I also carry on the same chain, a pair of small scissors. Used to carry a throwing knife in my teens in the 50s, because I liked showing off that I could hit what i was aiming at!!

Good point Pat. My SIL is a chef. He doesn't leave his (very expensive, very sharp & very long) knives at work. They're in the car driving to & from work.

professional tools are a different matter as long as you can convince old bill that that is exactly what they are, and used for.....and I might add they need to be properly cased,

having a machete in case you want to chop down a tree wouldn't work, me thinks!!


on another note , as I heard it, having a baseball bat indoors to ward off burglars, it is a good defence if you have the baseball to go with it!
Bob

Makes it bl**dy diffcult to get some hazel for pea sticks then!!

I wish we weren't all compared to the lowest common denominator!!

I have both a mallet and an axe by my back door - I wonder what the police would think they are there for?
The bow saw is currently in the shed, so would my argument that bow saw & axe are used for chopping down dead branches of an overgrown shrub be believed?
Mallet is used when I go camping - but I don't own a tent.

OMG evidence shows I must go around killing people!!!!

i always carry a pot of pepper and a hat pin

..will that be for your impromptu mini kebabs Joy?

In our first aid kits, we tend to use small scissors to cut plasters etc. :o))

Hello Dizzi..

ooops i got a a very small penknife on my house keys ..been there 20 years..

..its only small and clean my nails with it lol..... looks like taking it off..it measures 2 inches..

MILDRED
ON PLANES THERE WEAPONS AND BANNED
& NAIL FILES

Yeah, so are bombs and flame throwers and AK 47's. Interesting conundrum - there is one chance in about 10 gazillion that there will be a bomb on a plane. So if you carry your own bomb, would that reduce the odds.......?

ELDRICK
I NEED NO REMINDING THANK YOU
CONSIDERING HOW CLOSE TO THE AIRPORT I LIVE

ALSO MY OH IS FULLY TRAINED TO XRAY FOR SUCH ITEMS