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maggiewinchester

maggiewinchester Report 28 Mar 2009 13:18

Anyone got an un-neutered tom cat - and if so, why?

ShimmsRedRoseAndMistletoe

ShimmsRedRoseAndMistletoe Report 28 Mar 2009 13:22

Hi Maggie

My cats are always rescue cats, neutered before they become part of my family. xxx

Teddys Girl

Teddys Girl Report 28 Mar 2009 13:24

Not on your life, our little boy was a stray, which we took in at 12 weeks, and kept in until he was old enough to be neutured.

Who with any sense wants the smell and the roaming of a tom cat.

Also she cats, best to have them spayed otherwise you get the catawauling when they are on heat, and the unexepected kittens.

Whats up Maggie, a tom given you problems?

Mo

maggiewinchester

maggiewinchester Report 28 Mar 2009 13:36

Hi Shimms & Mo,
I've got 3 cats - products of a rescue cat we were assured was spayed!!
Mother cat started getting aggresive towards the kits - obviously wanted to be alone LOL(and peeing under my duvet) so we got her neutered and gave her back to rescue place. Mother was rehomed within the week.
So, I have 3 cats - 2 boys and one half-size girl - all neutered/spayed.

I have been upstairs (okay not doing H* work - playing games), it's windy and I can't hear what's going on outside. My cats have been harrassed for the past 3 months by a ginger tom - the girl has been so frightened by him lurking outside the cat flap that she's peed on the floor!
Went downstairs, opened the back door to see this cat running off - and my poor little girl hiding in a shrub. I looked down at the path to see huge lumps of her fur all over the place - and poo!!
Got her in - she's filthy and has the tell-tale signs - amongst others- of bite marks & wet fur on her shoulders. - the b*st*rd has to all intents & purposes raped her!
As I said before - she's a small cat - half the size of her 'normal' sized brothers - and is now a nervous wreck. I've had to lock the cat flap, and I suppose I'll now have to get the litter tray in - but her brother's won't like it.
Why should my cats be imprisoned because of some selfish cat owner?

***Julie*Ann***.sprinkling fairydust***

***Julie*Ann***.sprinkling fairydust*** Report 28 Mar 2009 13:40

ive never owned a cat
but i feel so sad for your little cat, poor thing,

people do seem selfish dont they, its kinda let um out and leave um too it,

poor thing hope shes not injured in anyway,
wrap her up and give her cuddles,
the weathers n ot even nice for her anyway is it, so shes better off in doors,

maggiewinchester

maggiewinchester Report 28 Mar 2009 13:43

It's beautiful here Julie-ann - windy but sunny.
Just right for a cat to chase leaves in their own garden - which is what Betty was doing!!

ShimmsRedRoseAndMistletoe

ShimmsRedRoseAndMistletoe Report 28 Mar 2009 13:54

Oh Maggie

I am sorry, how horrid, so feeling for you and your little cat. Just can't imagine how I would feel if I found mine as you have yours, she should be able to play happily chasing leaves and more.

They should all be able to play happily, venture outside, I am sorry, truly I am.

xxx Shimms xxx

Glenys the Menace!

Glenys the Menace! Report 28 Mar 2009 13:59

Maggie, it annoys me so much that people still don't neuter their cats. Yes, it CAN be expensive in paying for the op., whatever the cost, but then - that's part of owning a cat in the first place.

There's no excuse whatsoever these days, as animal welfare places in England have made it so easy (and inexpensive) to have pets neutered.

If anybody protests about the cost, what are they doing with a pet in the first place?

Besides, it's unfair on the animal concerned.

*gets knickers un-twisted, lol*

BTW - We have 5 cats, all neutered, 3 of them male.

Muffyxx

Muffyxx Report 28 Mar 2009 14:04

We have the same problem here with my three cats.

Got one boy and two girls.......all neutered.......

The girls are mother and daughter..........they HATE each other lol. Boy is a rescue who has never been quite *right*.......not the full ticket.

BIG Tom often comes strutting into my front garden and scares the bejesus out of my boy and the Mum cat..........

Until daughter comes to the rescue.........feisty moo she is and won't tolerate any of it........even though she loathes her mother she won't allow any nonsense on *her* patch lol.

I feel really sorry for your poor little girl....bless her....I'd have the same problem here but for stroppy drawers........water pistol idea sounds reasonable enough to me under the circumstances.

Hope she is ok once the shock has worn off a bit xx

PollyPoppet

PollyPoppet Report 28 Mar 2009 14:08

bless the poor wee thing plenty of cuddles needed i had the same problem a while back with my alice she is a rescue cat and she is not very big this tom cat kept coming round she was petrified of it she wouldnt go out unles you were with her even for a pee i tried all of chucking things not at it wouldnt hurt a creature but nothing seemed to work then one day had enough chucked a cup of cold water on it and it ran like the blazes you see it now and again but just have to shout and it runs

maggiewinchester

maggiewinchester Report 28 Mar 2009 14:10

There are a lot of cats around here - and most of them are spayed/neutered - probably why he chose Betty - she wouldn't be in season - but was small enough to overpower!
Betty is 2 years old - god help any female kitten with this furball of testosterone prowling about.
Not sure if this is a stray - may get the PDSA to trap him.
Apart from making Betty even more nervous than she is already - the greatest fear is feline AIDS.

I've tried water - and even a stray football that was in the garden - he's not deterred. He did jump quite high when I crept up behind him and roared at him - but still he came back!

maggiewinchester

maggiewinchester Report 28 Mar 2009 14:30

Marion, my mum lives in Portugal, which has a similar problem to spain - stray cats/dogs. The vet neutered mum's first dog - but gave the second one a vasectomy!! Doesn't exactly solve the problem of him running off to find a bitch in heat!
When my sister lived in Ireland many years ago, she had terrible trouble trying to find a vet who would spay her cat - they just didn't seem to do it - didn't have the right anaesthetic etc.

Christine - that's a lovely story. Nice of the vet to spay it for free.
I have to admit to 'taking in' a stray or two in the past myself - (neighbours 'accidently' forgetting them when they moved etc) but not aggresive ones!!

David

David Report 28 Mar 2009 14:31

I once took a queen cat to be speyed, only to be told it was a neutered tom

maggiewinchester

maggiewinchester Report 28 Mar 2009 14:35

I've had to unlock the cat flap - Betty's biggest brother George wanted to go outside - he WILL NOT use a litter tray. They both went out together (like George the big whoos will be any good on the protection stakes LOL)
Betty didn't stay out long and is now in my bedroom with her other brother - she's on a pile of my clothes - he's in his usual position - spread all over my bed!

maggiewinchester

maggiewinchester Report 28 Mar 2009 14:35

LOL David!!

Mrs.  Blue Eyes

Mrs. Blue Eyes Report 28 Mar 2009 15:09

I have an idea, probably not legal but..

Capture said Tom take him to the vets say he's your new cat and get him neutered.. if you're on benefits PDSA will do it for either free or cheap... if he's a stray he'll live longer and if he's not the owner will always wonder what happened to their sweet little "Ginge" :-))

maggiewinchester

maggiewinchester Report 28 Mar 2009 16:05

Hi Mrs BE - not on benefits - my pay just over threshold! But a friend who is in the Cat's protecton league knows a friendly vet - and she has a special trap for catching cats........
Friend would rather find the owner first... but I could always 'borrow' her trap!!!
Actually, once she hears what has happened to Betty, she'll probably be on night patrol! LOL

He shouldn't be too difficult to find then - he's kept me awake enough nights caterwauling.

Amanda2003

Amanda2003 Report 28 Mar 2009 16:22

Hello Maggie........I hope that poor Betty has calmed down a bit .

I had a major problem with my neighbour last year regarding un-done Toms . They moved in two years ago with apparently eight cats . I counted at least 12 over the following months. None of them had been "done" so there where constant fights at night.
I've got four cats ( all neutered /spayed ) and they stared getting harassed on a daily basis especially by " George " the sexually frustrated younger Tom cat. I totally lost it one afternoon and ended up bellowing like a fish wife at the woman next door.........she did get George "done" and things have quietened down a bit ( but he is still a nuisance ).

Good luck with getting something done about the Ginger Tom.

Amanda x

Sharron

Sharron Report 28 Mar 2009 17:56

The cat I have now is the second stray I have taken in with his nuts on.I have had them both de-nutted immediately and then advertized them as found.

The cat charities will help pay for the procedure.

I work on the assumption that an entire tom is a stray cat and if it is your stud tom you should take better care of it.

SJR

SJR Report 28 Mar 2009 18:06

I am a cat lover and have a "ginger tom".
But ther is a local un neutered cat which insists on using my heathers as a toilet.
Apparently un neutered cats do not "dig"